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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    ? @AnttiL I would say it´s not what spectators can see on liason, it´s about what marketing people will do about it. advertisings etz...
    Yeah, and if we have a light hybrid system, the cars resemble the manufacturer hybrid models and WRC+ shows footage of the cars entering the service park or going through a city silently, the marketing department is satisfied. No need for heavy battery packs or remote charging stations to get through hundreds of kilometres of liaison. Also the actual sport is affected as little as possible (could we still see someone retire because of the hybrid system failing?)

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    Guys, when you talk about silence and marketing, you do realise the silent film era died nearly a century ago for a good reason. People like sound.
    Never stop dreaming because one day it might happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franky View Post
    Guys, when you talk about silence and marketing, you do realise the silent film era died nearly a century ago for a good reason. People like sound.
    So we should just turn WRC+ into silent films and say they're all electric cars, that's the way to save the series!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    So we should just turn WRC+ into silent films and say they're all electric cars, that's the way to save the series!
    In the end it doesn't really matter what's under the hood. The people who know usually care about rallying, and those who don't know can be satisfied by telling them whatever they want to hear.

    Not long ago ford called their wrc engine ecoboost and put huge stickers on their wrc cars, even though the wrc engine has nothing in common with the ordinary ecoboost engines.

    Marketing is all lies, i see no reason why it should be different in wrc. If they just put a hybrid logo on the cars, 95% of the population will just believe it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    Not long ago ford called their wrc engine ecoboost and put huge stickers on their wrc cars, even though the wrc engine has nothing in common with the ordinary ecoboost engines.
    You're wrong. The previous generation of the Fiesta WRC used the Ecoboost 1.6 from the Fiesta ST for their WRC. Of course apart from the engine block most components were different. With the current generation it's a different engine, and little to no visibility for the "ecoboost" logo.

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    I hate to say it, but this extreme E series is gathering a staggering amount of momentum. I'm certainly not saying it's a competitor for rallying, but BBC1 coverage, multiple F1 champion involvement and it hasn't even started yet.
    Although it's a different sport, will it absorb some of the fans rallying was aiming to capture, or possible poach a some current ones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommeke_B View Post
    You're wrong. The previous generation of the Fiesta WRC used the Ecoboost 1.6 from the Fiesta ST for their WRC. Of course apart from the engine block most components were different. With the current generation it's a different engine, and little to no visibility for the "ecoboost" logo.
    They still have Powered by Ecoboost stickers on the cars since 2017 and they always use it in their media:

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    Both EcoBoost-powered Ford Fiesta WRCs safely through the first stage of the day #WRC #MSPORTERS



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    Quote Originally Posted by tommeke_B View Post
    You're wrong. The previous generation of the Fiesta WRC used the Ecoboost 1.6 from the Fiesta ST for their WRC. Of course apart from the engine block most components were different. With the current generation it's a different engine, and little to no visibility for the "ecoboost" logo.
    Even the block won't be the same. It may come from the same factory but that's about it.

    All i'm trying to say is that they can lie about it and nobody cares. So why not just tell people the cars are hybrids without them actually being so.
    If necessary we could put some small cheap electric unit in it that will power the car for 1 kilometer or so. Then it won't even be lying.

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    They can call it how they like, if it`s an Ecoboost, then it is an ecoboost, just Ford`s trademark for their Turbo engines.
    And indeed, previous Fiesta WRC had a modified stock block (as can be seen in the video below), but the last versioon i believe was casted for only WRC cars.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYbMk50awO0

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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post

    If necessary we could put some small cheap electric unit in it that will power the car for 1 kilometer or so. Then it won't even be lying.
    You’ve just described the 2022 hybrid rules

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