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    They should just keep the current engines but give them all the name "hybrid".

    The fans don't want or care about hybrids, and the people that do care about them don't care or know anything about the sport.
    Just like ford named their engine ecoboost.

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    Highly-modified versions of my road car have hybrid turbo's !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    I like this from Colin McMaster:

    What about R5+ ? MSport even made one once.

    Put a full aero kit onto an R5 & open up the restrictor [and/or add a control-spec hybrid unit]
    With the world’s best wheelmen on-board they would look amazing.
    I'm pretty sure it made it's debut on the Grizedale Stages in 2013/14??? can't remember now, whether Matt or Elfyn drove it; I did film it on my old i-Phone.

    However, I certainly think R5+ but with a 'spec'/ control hybrid could work. I also think that everybody has to be pragmatic (FiA, Manufacturers, the Promoter, etc), whilst trying to keep the sport relevant to those same Manufacturers.

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by deephouse View Post
    Could bodyshell hold up, and safety?
    Brakes, suspension, gearbox...we would see a lot more broken parts due to higher power. And if you start reinforcing them, it's soon back to WRC.

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    Does anyone have any idea what's the cost difference between a spaceframe and production chassis based cars?
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    Correct me if i'm wrong, but shouldn't this WMC meeting had been to the aproval of the 2022 WRC regulations?

    They only aproved the guidelines? But wasn't this been done in the last June WMC?

    I think all this process is being later month by month...
    Last edited by JAM; 5th December 2019 at 16:13.
    Three gears are enough!

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    The teams have now until April to decide whether they commit to the 2022 rules or not.

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    With Matton in a position of power I fear the worst. Bloke inspires no confidence, just look what he's caused at Citroen before jumping ship.

    As for R5 cars, they just lack spectacle and a wow factor. And I don't think its all speed related, they just dont sound great at all.

    The s2000s weren't hugely fast (slower than current R5s obviously), but nobody can deny they were spectacular when stood stage side in a forest hearing them popping and banging for miles. It's no coincidence the IRC exploded in popularity with those cars (the same series wouldn't have grown anywhere near as much if the class below the wrc remained group N). That's why any sort of full electric won't work in the WRC unless they produce some realistic artificial noise (as naff as that sounds). I watched a clip of the electric rally cross car driven by Stohl and Delecour, and it looked incredibly fast. The drivers were amazed, but a washing machine makes more noise and I wouldn't go to watch rally cars like that for free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    The teams have now until April to decide whether they commit to the 2022 rules or not.
    Wich rules? The guidelines or the regulations?
    Three gears are enough!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franky View Post
    Does anyone have any idea what's the cost difference between a spaceframe and production chassis based cars?
    I dare to say that the space frame is in the end cheaper option for the manufacturers. For sure it's much easier one to manage because it is in no way connected with the burden of serial production and can be designed and perfectly optimized from scratch.
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