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    As someone said on the recent Dirtfish podcast, WRC should make the events an 'Adventure Experience' for VIP's, following the rally into the stages.

    The current hospitality for guests in the SP structures is like a 'poor man's F1'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    As someone said on the recent Dirtfish podcast, WRC should make the events an 'Adventure Experience' for VIP's, following the rally into the stages.

    The current hospitality for guests in the SP structures is like a 'poor man's F1'.
    I don't know about other rallies, but Rally Finland has a huge number of VIP guest paddocks on the stages, complete with catering, drinks, TV screens, celebrity hosts, even helicopter flights. It's a big business, mostly run by individual entrepreneurs, not the rally organization. I know that not all rallies have the terrain to make it, but the open fields allow you to put up a tent and give space for helicopters to land. Probably Colin's Crest in Sweden has something similar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyRAC View Post
    It's no good people (the teams, Promoter) moaning about lack of interest from sponsors, manufacturers, media, etc when they don't/can't change.
    You must understand that the lack of sponsor interest for rallying nowadays comes from a totally different issue than the event format

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    You must understand that the lack of sponsor interest for rallying nowadays comes from a totally different issue than the event format
    It's far easier for sponsors to justify giving up on something when it already no longer serves the wider public it once reached. Many aspects affecting the future of this sport are outside of the control of people in rallying, event formats largely aren't.

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    https://dirtfish.com/rally/stohl-its...l-electric-now

    Here’s another view to the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    https://dirtfish.com/rally/stohl-its...l-electric-now

    Here’s another view to the future.
    Don't think it's doable in the very near future as the charging grid is not so widely spread. For some reason I presume the charging times he mentions are with the highest power output.

    And that's not even to think about the potential safety hazards.

    But from a marketing point of view, it could be good. Just think how many automobile manufacturers are trying to find their way in the EVs currently.
    Never stop dreaming because one day it might happen.

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    Yes, lots of challenges still for full EV's, but still promising to hear the charging wouldn't be an issue.

    EV's should have their own series or class before being taken to WRC level. It doesn't happen overnight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    You must understand that the lack of sponsor interest for rallying nowadays comes from a totally different issue than the event format
    No offence, but I've watched enough sports over the years to know what does and doesn't work. I don't need to understand anything.

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Yes, lots of challenges still for full EV's, but still promising to hear the charging wouldn't be an issue.

    EV's should have their own series or class before being taken to WRC level. It doesn't happen overnight.
    To give some perspective here (in a positive way), a high performance motorsport battery, i.e. the F1 kind for example, can be fully charged in less than a minute, it takes a design with proper cooling to achieve this, but it is and has been doable for many years now. Life may not be as long as the battery in your mobile phone, but neither is the F1 or WRC IC engines' longevity as good as the one in the average road car. The problem is it takes vast amounts of power to charge these batteries in less than a minute, which in an F1 car is available through the extremely "violent" braking events, but obviously significantly less so at the average roadside charging station. So the ball is entirely in the charging facilities court currently as far as motorsport on "open" roads is concerned. We need service vans with 1MW diesel generators on the back positioned strategically along the route or chasing the cars
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    Quote Originally Posted by NickRally View Post
    We need service vans with 1MW diesel generators on the back positioned strategically along the route or chasing the cars
    That'll be fun! Trucks with 7 to 8 ton generators on the back charging round the countrside. Not sure the environmentalists will be happy though.

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