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    If the past showed us anything is that the FIA and the WRC promoter are as stubborn as donkeys and unfortunately it seems like that's not going to change any time soon and soon enough we'll be down to Toyota & M-Sport....and if they continue in this path, we can wave our WRC goodbye...I do wish they'd be less ignorant of the situation and stopped dragging their legs around...However I am aware there are a lot of parts in motion...but then again there's a reason why it's them managing it and not us....
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    From Gerard Quinn’s Twitter today:

    “Hyundai linked with move away from WRC from 2023 - I must say I'm not surprised. After 2022 the sport will have little relevance for manufacturers seeking a return on investment.”

    That’s the view from someone who, until recently, was very much on the inside.

    Really worrying times and like Eli says, there is a lot going on and a lot to take into account.
    I still can’t help feeling like the whole sport is, in absolute broad daylight, sleep-walking itself into a disaster.

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    Remember that the world around the sport is also changing, some things cannot be prevented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Remember that the world around the sport is also changing, some things cannot be prevented.
    I think the whole world knows the world is changing, so to speak. It still doesn't seem like those making decisions for the future of the sport are pulling even in the slightest same direction.

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    Gerard also said:

    "The days of the manufacturer being a cash cow for the sport and its exhorbitant running/regulatory costs are over. It is a cost no longer necessary to create excitement around a manufacturer brand so more is not the solution. If anything the sport thrives on private investment."
    https://twitter.com/WRCgerardquinn/s...58300320587782

    How could the WRC change this with their own decisions? How should/could they convince manufacturers still investing money in WRC?

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    Rally 2 should be made top category from 2022. No other realistic solution. Cars even more expensive than the current aren't gonna cut it. Allowing privateers back in the top category is only gonna help WRC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Gerard also said:



    https://twitter.com/WRCgerardquinn/s...58300320587782

    How could the WRC change this with their own decisions? How should/could they convince manufacturers still investing money in WRC?

    a) that's his opinion and he may not be correct.
    b) your second question is the million dollar question. Who knows.. hybrid / full electric.

    I find it interesting that he thinks manufacturers no longer require excitement to be built around a brand. If so, then why do other motorsport disciplines seemingly desire manufacturer involvement. And if the WRC was no longer a sport that needed manufacturer inclusion, then what?... would anyone bother building cars still? Got to be honest, his tweet has confused my thinking even further.

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    Relax guys, if Hyundai really decide to pull out, the Rally1 Hybrid rules will simply die. In 2018 the FIA has established a minimum of 3 manus to turn WRX Supercars class into a full electric category; with only 2 available there was no rules change. They won’t do differently in WRC case.

    Besides, once Mr. Wilson is in favor of a Super Rally2 solution, why would he sign for Rally1 Hybrids and face alone the all mighty Toyota Gazoo team?

    Yep, Matton seems to be a stubborn fellow, but on this one he’ll have to come with a B plan, sooner or later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommeke_B View Post
    There's no reason for Toyota to be happy if Hyundai leaves. A title is only as valuable as the competition fighting for it.
    They are in serious competition to be the top-selling brand and pretty much hate each other.

    Being able to boast being WRC Champions on their ads is what matters. Not giving Toyota an 'open goal' is the best chance we have of Hyundai staying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    Relax guys, if Hyundai really decide to pull out, the Rally1 Hybrid rules will simply die. In 2018 the FIA has established a minimum of 3 manus to turn WRX Supercars class into a full electric category; with only 2 available there was no rules change. They won’t do differently in WRC case.

    Besides, once Mr. Wilson is in favor of a Super Rally2 solution, why would he sign for Rally1 Hybrids and face alone the all mighty Toyota Gazoo team?

    Yep, Matton seems to be a stubborn fellow, but on this one he’ll have to come with a B plan, sooner or later.
    Is this 'three Manus required rule' a fact for WRC ?

    And what if Toyota & Ford M-Sport wont continue without going hybrid...

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