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    yes, I know You know a lot about everything.

    I said ,,to me''.
    No need to explain that production, workers, softwares etc take money.

    Your random number calculation doesn't say anything much..
    Let's make 1mil units and the price goes down to 3.5 euros? Doesn't work that way..

    If I said that it sounds quite cheap, then would You have agreed? Or said opposite and that it is a huge amount of money for teams and their budgets..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TypeR View Post
    Let's make 1mil units and the price goes down to 3.5 euros? Doesn't work that way..
    Sorry but it looks like you don't understand.

    It's not the price to go down to 3,5 Euro. It's solely the R&D cost which has to be paid within the price of the product. With a thing produced in low dozens the R&D price may create half of the product price or even more. In mass-produced product such as the stock systems the R&D expense creates negligible percentage of the product price. The other expenses such as materials, production, delivery etc. there is never such a huge dependence on the production volume.

    Let's say that to produce the system costs 20 thousand Euro (material, production manhours, subdeliveries, production facility, quality control etc.). In my example with 50 parts the total expense is 90000 per piece. In a case of 100000 products the total expense is 20035 Euro per piece.

    In other words, if WRC low-production system costs 100 thousand Euro it was definitely developed with lower expenses than in my example and I'm quite sure that gigantic and hugely bureaucratic companies such as Toyota won't develop it cheaper (after spending 10 years in a global automotive company I dare to say that). What makes their final products cheap is the quantity and the optimization of mass production. I'm willing to bet the R&D cost alone is higher for these companies than for the small specialized ones.
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    The hybrid systems used in single seaters, are they bought from a sole source, or are they developed by teams or engine manufacturers?
    I am guessing it differs from series to series.

    Can or are Rally as a sport using lessons learned from single seater series in this prosess?

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    wrc_tv_italy

    Jari-Matti Latvala, Toyota WRC team principal, told 'Ralli.fi' that the team will soon begin testing the new Rally1 car.

    Latvala claims that Toyota is lagging behind on the hybrid car in fact they will mount the hybrid component on the current Yaris WRC , as the GR Yaris model, the model on which Rally1 will be based, is not yet ready.

    Latvala believes the GR Yaris Rally1 will only be ready for testing in the summer:

    “We will probably test with a mixed package this spring. There is some of the old, namely the chassis of the current WRC car, and there will be new components and other parts added.
    With this car that will host parts of the new one we will start testing in the spring. In the summer, we should therefore have a hybrid car ready for road tests. But surely we will have to wait until the summer before this machine is ready. "

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    Who is the new manu coming into WRC next?

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    Good question - they're hardly queuing up to join, are they?

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    One would rather leave than join.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    Who is the new manu coming into WRC next?
    Ford!

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    Can't see it!

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    Audi, no...? WRC.com told me they're coming!

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