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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    All major motorsport series are using (and will continue to use) Hybrids and unless the FIA decide to ruin 50 years of world rally heritage, turning the WRC into a Mickey Mouse competition (with endless loops on 5km stages), thereís no way this sport can use full EVís any time soon.
    I was recently thinking about it, and actually they could. It could perhaps even be one of the easiest motorsports to do it.

    If they were to provide quick charging zones before each stage, and possibly before every long liaison, they could go full electric.

    They would have to adapt the timing and maybe hire some generators, but that would solve the short range problem.

    I don't like it, i don't want it, but it should be possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T16 View Post
    Look, I don't want it to go electric, but if it means survival, then fair enough.
    Regarding the FIA changing 50 years of heritage; It won't be them that decides, they will inevitably follow what the manufacturers want in terms of a marketing vessel. If that is electric, the FIA will have to go this way and just find a way around the potential issues.
    Whoís saying that manus want Rally to go full electric? Apart VW (that turn green from night to day after the Dieselgate), no manu is stupid enough to push for a tech thatís not ready to serve rally main marketing purpose: proving that average looking cars can surpass the most extreme challenges on daily roads.

    Besides, apart some populist politicians, who can assure that Hybrids will end on a near future? Did you know that many of those German manus that jumped into FE to save their faces are now reconsidering to get into the 2022/23 WEC-LM/IMSA Hybrid formula (LMDh)? And that Hyundai, through their American arm, is being pushed to also get into LMDh? https://racer.com/2020/09/18/imsa-re...l-regulations/


    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    If they were to provide quick charging zones before each stage, and possibly before every long liaison, they could go full electric.
    They would have to adapt the timing and maybe hire some generators, but that would solve the short range problem.
    That's a big if and besides the autonomy issues there are also safety questions and, most of all, reliability founded doubts, considering Rally extreme challenges. Again, unless we turn this sport into a Mickey Mouse competition, full EVís arenít ready for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    Whoís saying that manus want Rally to go full electric? Apart VW (that turn green from night to day after the Dieselgate), no manu is stupid enough to push for a tech thatís not ready to serve rally main marketing purpose: proving that average looking cars can surpass the most extreme challenges on daily roads.

    Besides, apart some populist politicians, who can assure that Hybrids will end on a near future? Did you know that many of those German manus that jumped into FE to save their faces are now reconsidering to get into the 2022/23 WEC-LM/IMSA Hybrid formula (LMDh)? And that Hyundai, through their American arm, is being pushed to also get into LMDh? https://racer.com/2020/09/18/imsa-re...l-regulations/




    That's a big if and besides the autonomy issues there are also safety questions and, most of all, reliability founded doubts, considering Rally extreme challenges. Again, unless we turn this sport into a Mickey Mouse competition, full EVís arenít ready for it.
    Iím not saying the manufacturers are saying the want to go electric.
    I said you claiming the FIA make the decision is inaccurate. They will ultimately serve the demands of the manufacturer.

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    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/hyund...-wrc-from-2023

    Hyundai possibly quitting rallying at the end of 2021

    EDIT: end of 2021, not 2022
    Last edited by AnttiL; 19th October 2020 at 09:46.

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    Tšnak finishes his career at m-sport then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    Tšnak finishes his career at m-sport then?
    In their Fiesta Rally2 then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommeke_B View Post
    In their Fiesta Rally2 then?
    well if WRC would move to Rally2's, Hyundai would have a car...even the article says that Rally2 and Rally3 projects will continue.

    It's a different thing who will pay the drivers' salaries or running th ecars.

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    Honestly I think the move to Rally2 as top category is the only long term option, despite the negative consequences it could have for national rallying. It's never been a question if this would end, only when, the coronavirus could speed up this process very rapidly... We'll be very, very lucky if we still have 3 manufacturers competing with their WRC cars next year.

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    I said a while ago (on another forum I think) in a post Covid world there will be less manufacturers willing to spend money on motorsport programmes; as such, there will be a battle between series to attract/ keep them. The WRC has to be careful that when the music stops, they have a chair to sit on. These rumours are possibly a warning shot.

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    Seems to be a question of what's more important to have in the 2022 WRC - Hybrid or Hyundai ?

    I cant see the WRC backing down and Toyota will be happy if Hyundai pull out leaving them in a dominant position. And M-Sport Ford seem ok with going hybrid asap.

    Adamo sounds worried and rightly so.

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