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    Quote Originally Posted by er88 View Post
    The noise is so important in rallying, at least to me. It adds a lot to the spectacle besides the speed and driver ability.
    I can't agree more: Way back then in the 70's , the noise was such that you could hear cars coming from miles away. Coupled with the lighs flashing in the mountains at night this was sheer excitement event before the cars were within sight.

    However i believe noise is one of things that needs/will have to be eradicated the most for the sport to survive. This is what "authorities" want and it has already killed night rallying. Keep in mind that not everyone is a fan, alas ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by er88 View Post
    The noise is so important in rallying, at least to me. It adds a lot to the spectacle besides the speed and driver ability.
    I agree. The noise of the roaring engines was one of the things that attracted me to rallyling in the eighties. Without the noise it will be like a chess tournament.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djip View Post
    However i believe noise is one of things that needs/will have to be eradicated the most for the sport to survive. This is what "authorities" want and it has already killed night rallying. Keep in mind that not everyone is a fan, alas ...
    I get what you mean, but rallying without noise? It's like playing heavy metal without amps - it doesn't make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarek Z View Post
    I get what you mean, but rallying without noise? It's like playing heavy metal without amps - it doesn't make sense.
    That's actually funny since nowadays most touring heavy metal bands use digital modeling devices like Fractal Axe-FX to shape their sound, and there might not be a single guitar speaker cabinet on stage, all sound to the guitarist coming only from the in-ear-monitors sorry OT

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    Quote Originally Posted by er88 View Post
    Yeah...., in s2000 Skoda's that were banging, popping and screaming. They could be heard miles away in a forest.

    The noise is so important in rallying, at least to me. It adds a lot to the spectacle besides the speed and driver ability.

    I don't think it's a coincidence the IRC was so huge during the peak S2000 years, and seriously scaring and rivaling the WRC..., or that the WRC is now so popular and attendances are rising everywhere..., with the 17 cars sounding so impressive.

    The R5s can be driven well but they just don't sound exciting. It takes away from their spectacle..., which is an already big drop in terms of raw speed and performance from the current top class.
    Shouldn´t be rocket science to get the R5´s to sound more.
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    I have said for years that the car noise is at least 50% of the spectacle of rally. I'm sure most peoples first impression of a rally car live is the roar that you hear well before you see it, building the anticipation and excitement.

    It's also why I pestered WRC+ for a no-commentary option.

    As for the future (electric) cars, noise will be necessary for safety and Paddon has confirmed his EV car will have it no problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    That's actually funny since nowadays most touring heavy metal bands use digital modeling devices like Fractal Axe-FX to shape their sound, and there might not be a single guitar speaker cabinet on stage, all sound to the guitarist coming only from the in-ear-monitors sorry OT
    I don't know what this Fractal Axe-FX is, but I'm sure those heavy metal bands still sound loud!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    It's also why I pestered WRC+ for a no-commentary option.
    Amen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarek Z View Post
    I don't know what this Fractal Axe-FX is, but I'm sure those heavy metal bands still sound loud!
    I'd say the discussion with tube amps against digital modeling devices has been, for the past 20 years, quite similar as ICE's against EV's in rallying, but it seems that the future has been finally adpoted in music production, let's see how it turns out in motorsport. (and yes, amplifiers are still used in the PA system to make the audience hear the band). Sorry OT again, but it's a sort of similar debate.

    For me noise is not that important, competition is number one, and visual of the performance more important than the sound.

    I'm sure there's people who think motorsport is nothing compared to horse races because you don't have the right smells

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    This... ...is how you do marketing for electric cars.
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