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    WRC future

    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    Apparently it would. Besides MSport, Hyundai also looked in favor of closer to R5 specs, while Toyota seemed always pushing for more expensive features. At the end a compromise was reached, probably by giving MSport green light to use Rally1cars in national champs or by freezing GRE developments in order to control costs, as Hyundai asked.
    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/wrc-k...2-hybrid-move/
    I meant manufacturers, not teams.

    Also that article talks only about the engine. A 2022 Rally1 car with an R5 engine would still be very different from an R5 car.
    Last edited by AnttiL; 2nd December 2020 at 17:35.

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    I really don't see the point of this R+ discussion. It's dead and burried idea. Why so much fuss about it?
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    I really don't see the point of this R+ discussion. It's dead and burried idea. Why so much fuss about it?
    Then why did you write long posts against it? Even if dead and buried, who knows if it won’t ‘resurrect’ on a near future, in case Rally1H fail to deliver a proper competition…
    Rally addict since 1982

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    Lets do an experiment, with an open mind.

    - since very few car sold worldwide have 4wd, FIA and manus say that starting with 4wd cars was a mistake.
    - We will revert back to 2wd cars for all rallyclasses.

    - Rally1 and Rally2 will be Rear wheel drive
    - Rally 3-5 will be front wheel drive.

    FIA tech regs kept simple, to keep cost down.

    What will happen?
    Top Drivers will love it, they rally with Escorts and M3s for fun in their spare time.
    Manufacturers will develop cars within a simple tech environment, with little or no electronic gizmos allowed.

    Private teams can buy or develop their own cars, no need to get manufacturer Blessing to homologate. All good as long as they pass safety requirements.

    So more competitive cars to compete.
    More drivers to make a living from rally.

    Privat teams will get sponsors to pay the bills and salaries for teams and driving crews.

    For us as fans and audience, we would love seing the long slides, and perfect car control on the loose, and trying to stay narrow on asphalt, but not always manage.

    Would be fun for all, in my book!

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    Not this nonsense again, please.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Not this nonsense again, please.
    You are boring Mirek, should think you are a bean counter by profession.
    Rally is, as all motorsport in the entertainment business, no more and no less. Same as football, or any sport.

    A bit of fantasy have never hurt anyone.

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    This is not a fantasy thread but a thread about WRC future.

    If you open a fantasy thread I hereby promise you that I will never ever enter it.
    Last edited by Mirek; 2nd December 2020 at 22:32.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    I find RWD cars quite boring to watch tbh. Especially in slow and high speed corners. Slow corners it's just lots of wheelspin and nothing going on, high speed they are just slow as drivers cant push more without fearing they loose control.
    FWD are even worse in slow speed, but on tarmac better to watch at high speed.
    Last edited by mknight; 3rd December 2020 at 07:50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    This is not a fantasy thread but a thread about WRC future.

    If you open a fantasy thread I hereby promise you that I will never ever enter it.

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    It's like a broken record; if the WRC series is in good shape and offers manufacturers what they want, they'll sign up. If it doesn't then they won't - at the moment we think (according to Dirtfish) both Toyota & Hyundai have signed up. As have M-Sport - but how much support will Ford bring....??? 4 fully funded manufacturers is the ideal number for the long term. 6,7+ tends to be short lived as a few realise they can't win and pull the plug.

    Rallying doesn't inhabit some bubble, it's part of the greater motorsport world; it might help some people to take notice of what's going on in other series; I also think most other series tend to be a bit more proactive towards technology - WRC is quite often left behind.

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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