WRC future

[wyler]

Now check how often Østberg's R5 rallies failed last year from technical faults. My point is that the competition in WRC2 is not as tough as in main WRC. You can drive easier and expect to get a podium position. If you do that with main WRC, you will fall too far behind, because the cars are more durable and the level of pace higher.

you can check in opposition how often r5 got top10 and scored points, often beating lower tier driver on wrc. wrc suffer technical issues too, especially if driven recklessly. Those thing doesn't prove that upgraded r5s will fail, especially after upgrading. makinen is using a partial view, let's try to see the full picture. no one is saying they'll be same as wrc+, but they can do the job. point is: is it worth to downgrade a bit to reduce cost and favor participation? this can be vastly argued! : )

[deephouse]

There are multiple engineers at the each team. I'm pretty sure that they are well payed for their jobs. Isn't one of the Toyota's main one bragging how he manage to made an excelent car. What now, his job is done or what?

[denkimi]

Each car will break if you hit it hard enough.
And top drivers will try to push them to the point where it breaks. Put them all in fragile group n cars and after a short while they will break no more than a wrc car.

The stronger you make it, the harder they will hit things. Tommi is just spewing out bullshit because he needs the rules to stay as they are.

[RS]

Today’s WMSC news (nothing very concrete):

FIA World Rally Championship

Following approval of the main technical definition of the 2022 rules for Rally1 (formerly WRC) at the Council meeting of 4 December 2019, the FIA Rally and Technical departments in cooperation with the WRC manufacturers have continued to develop a series of regulations that will ensure the current spectacle, aesthetic appeal and sound are carried over to the new generation cars and will deliver exciting competition at an attainable level of investment for the teams. The intention is to reduce costs against the current vehicles while including sustainable hybrid technology and a system of scaling to allow manufacturers to adapt their rally car from different models.

The Council today approved the Technical Regulations for this new class, with final details of the engine regulations, hybrid technology and standard safety cell yet to be confirmed.

[mknight]

There are multiple engineers at the each team. I'm pretty sure that they are well payed for their jobs. Isn't one of the Toyota's main one bragging how he manage to made an excelent car. What now, his job is done or what?

Obviously his main interest would be to have as little changes to the car as possible. Hence Tommis comments on proposed rule changes.

[AnttiL]

Finally some decisions about Rally1 (formerly WRC) from 2022 onwards

Transmission:
4WD, five-speed transmission very similar in concept to the current Rally2 rules
Simple level type differential, no centre differential, only one kinematic drive train
A maximum of six transmission units per car per year permitted

Suspension:
Reduced wheel travel
Simplified dampers with reduced scope for homologation upgrades
Hubs, hub carriers and anti-roll bar designs will be simplified
Only one specification of wishbone mandated

Running gear:
Liquid brake cooling no longer allowed

Fuel tank:
Simplified shape

Aerodynamics:
Free volume bodywork area to enable aggressive design maintained
Aero effect from hidden ducts removed
Rear aerodynamic advice simplified

https://mailchi.mp/fia/jja3q9igfw-1470585

EDIT: There's also the first details of Rally3. 4WD car with 210 BHP and 100 000 euros cap price. For 2021 already.

[RS]

Nothing about the engine/hybrid system until later..

Sadly these cars will be named "Rally1s" and not WRCs, following the change from R5s to "Rally 2s"

[AnttiL]

Nothing about the engine/hybrid system until later..

Sadly these cars will be named "Rally1s" and not WRCs, following the change from R5s to "Rally 2s"

This was already known much earlier. Hopefully it will clarify the class system a bit. Now it's a bit messy.

[AnttiL]

With less suspension travel, less aero and no centre diff, the corner speeds should be lower. Also the cars would go more sideways and be more unstable at corners.

This could also result in some of the "too fast" Rally Finland stages like Ouninpohja to return onto the route.

[RS]

This was already known much earlier. Hopefully it will clarify the class system a bit. Now it's a bit messy.

True. I just don't like how it sounds.