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Thread: WRC future
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5th December 2019, 18:47 #151
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FIA should look at a single manufacturer for a control central spaceframe chassis option. The suspension add ons can be car brand specific. Use DTM type safety cells that would be difficult to add to road car body shells etc. Cost control might be better - one maker building a larger volume of space frames - development costs spread etc, Maybe better mounting/ protection of hybrid system battery.
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5th December 2019, 19:10 #152
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We wait all these years for a homologation special (Toyota Yaris GR-4), only for the WRC to switch to spaceframe chassis...
For me, unless moving to spaceframe chassis definitely brings in more manufacturers, like Suburu coming in with a scaled down Impre(tend)za(?), I'll personally really lament losing the only real tie to production road cars. Part of the appeal for me is manufacturers having to transform what they're sending down production line into what we see out on the stages.
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5th December 2019, 19:50 #153
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Anyone read the very first post in this thread recently?
How prescient!
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5th December 2019, 19:58 #154
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Just do whatever it was Skoda did to this Fabia R5 test car.. clearly still a Fabia R5 but sounds much more aggressive than the normal one, somehow.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qbBCTzc5LFg
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5th December 2019, 20:26 #155
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5th December 2019, 20:53 #156
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Sadly not, but underneath every WRCar is a core skeleton much like any other BIW that came off that model's production line. All were born equal, some went on to live more interesting lives than you're average runabout... While the manufacturers make little of that transformation, I think there's a beauty to that connection, the different path the rally car has taken...
To me, I just don't see what a space frame chassis means to a manufacturer or to consumers, particularly an outsourced standard FIA spec one as suggested by Zeakiwi2? People already complain about the disconnect between rallying and road going vehicles. Where does the value lie in competing or winning in rallying with that prototype? What does it prove?
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5th December 2019, 22:16 #157
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5th December 2019, 22:29 #158
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Actually, it seems he was pushed out…anyway even if his Citroen days weren’t promising, it may not be fair blaming him for this ‘hybridgate’, as there’s little info about what’s going on. My bet is that manus are divided about what system to use and Matton lost monthes trying to find common ground, apparently in vain. April’s final call and the announcement of a B plan are probably signs that Matton is feed up with talks and will push manus to accept Hybrid rules once for all. Time will tell.
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5th December 2019, 22:49 #159
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It gives an opportunity to join to any manufacturer (unlike the production-based vehicles). That is a big reason alone. Aside of that it makes the development of the car way easier for the manufacturers.
Who complains? The few of old-fashioned hardcore fans? Those make a tiny percentage of the target audience.
It proves exactly the same as the current generation of WRC cars or the one before, or the other before. Or do you really belive you bought a half-WRC car when you bought a stock Citroën C4?Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump
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5th December 2019, 23:15 #160
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Keith Cronin just took a huge 18.2 sec out of both Devine & Edwards on SS4 ! Edwards says that's mental and Keith is a special talent.
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