Wrc2 / wrc3 - 2020

**RaceRR** · 28th January 2020, 16:03

I have zero links to any driver. Just as a enthusiast of the sport for a long time - I think chance should be given to those who truly show their talent. Not those who gain a very low value titles in low competition and solely dependant on luck. If he even had won one rally, I'd rest my case. But he lost a podium finish in Latvia to a quite talented Sesks who was making a R5 debute...

RS · 28th January 2020, 16:08

Rovanpera and Solberg both seem to have a lot of talent, but we shouldn't forget they have both benefited from strong backing to be able to do a lot of events from a very young age.

I wouldn't say Ingram 'deserves' support more than Solberg (tbf Eddie didn't say that either) but he's good enough to be given a chance at least. You can't win an ERC title solely through luck, he was just more consistent than his opposition.

His main problems are lack of financial backing and his age.

**tommeke_B** · 28th January 2020, 16:18

Chris Ingram certainly is a good driver, but there are many good drivers. He was in the junior ERC 5 years ago already, if people from big teams would have considered him to be so interesting/talented, he'd be given a chance long time ago already. Maybe hard to accept, but he's in the same boat as many other equally talented and unlucky drivers...

**pantealex** · 28th January 2020, 16:27

Kajto is 3xERC champ. Only few were saying he deserve factory seat...

Ingram is fast but there are faster ones without seat...
and slower ones with seat.

**dimviii** · 28th January 2020, 17:01

nobody cares about champions without wins,or stage wins.Period.
Plenty cares about fast drivers,without championships,but with passes,stage times,rally wins,fights with the faster local crews.
Luky is a case of the second sentence,Ingram is a case at the first sentence.Even if he wins and this year championship,with the same pace.

**Fast Eddie WRC** · 28th January 2020, 17:58

Ok so I'm biased towards Ingram (and I sent a lot of money to help support his ERC season), but if there is to be any fairness or progression then a young European rally champion shouldnt have to pay (yet again) for a WRC2/3 chance.

There's no prizemoney for winning the ERC, so there should at least be a WRC2/3 chance provided by one of the Manu teams.

**Myrvold** · 28th January 2020, 18:35

Originally Posted by Jarek Z

Out of pure curiosity I've just checked it out.
The difference between Panizzi and Burns in Catalunya in 2002 was 37 seconds.
The difference between Ostberg and Fourmaux in Monte Carlo was 3 min 31 s

Of course the difference is bigger, the WRC2 is a joke (just like WRC2-Pro last year), but both had time for a donut was my point

We both agree really, I was just trying to have a tiny bit of fun

**mousti** · 28th January 2020, 18:59

Originally Posted by AnttiL

to drive Belgian championship

And WRC3.

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RS · 28th January 2020, 19:08

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

Ok so I'm biased towards Ingram (and I sent a lot of money to help support his ERC season), but if there is to be any fairness or progression then a young European rally champion shouldnt have to pay (yet again) for a WRC2/3 chance.

There's no prizemoney for winning the ERC, so there should at least be a WRC2/3 chance provided by one of the Manu teams.

It seems kinda strange that there are prizes for winning ERC Junior titles but nothing for the main title but on the other hand why would Eurosport want to pay for ‘their’ drivers to go elsewhere?

It seems all drivers in WRC2 this year are bringing money to their teams if Hyundai speculation is correct, and we don’t know the full details of Solberg’s Skoda deal yet either. It’s possible Skoda are only subsidising him.