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    Last edited by Jarek Z; 9th December 2020 at 20:05.
    http://www.rallymadness.prv.pl - rally photos and movies!

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    Welcome back, Nikolay Gryazin. The Russian will be in the Polo GTI R5 this weekend for Rallye Mariña Lucense with co-driver Konstantin Aleksandrov. Godspeed! #Volkswagen #Polo #GTI #R5 #rally #rallying #Spain #Gryazin

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    Although shades are slightly different, it reminds me of the Olio Fiat colour scheme of the days gone by:


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    Jari Huttunen is going to drive Tor Modlin Rally Show on Saturday with a new livery:

    https://pl.motorsport.com/rajdy/news...t-prev&nrt=146

    The event will be broadcasted live on on a cable channel called Motowizja and on their Facebook page:
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    http://www.rallymadness.prv.pl - rally photos and movies!

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    Entry list:
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    Note: Stohl's car with 0 cm3 engine capacity is an electric car
    http://www.rallymadness.prv.pl - rally photos and movies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarek Z View Post
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    Note: Stohl's car with 0 cm3 engine capacity is an electric car
    ERX = Electronic RallyCross
    "quattro best 4wd rallycar ever"

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    Watched the 2020 Season review on WRC (50 min) and while it was good it was (understandably focused) on how "everyone did great".
    While I agree that all of the main drivers (5 Hyundai +3 Toyota+2 MSport) did good performances at some point in 2020 , going trough them in detail I also found that the only one who had a perfect season was ..... Sordo (season means 3 rallies for him)

    For every other driver and all teams there things that they will for sure think about improving. So here's an outside and arguably biased view:

    Ogier - 3 times he lost close fights towards the end of rallies (Monte, Sweden, Sardinia), arguably the one in Monte is what he is likely most pissed about

    Evans - 2 great rallies where he was fighting for win (Monte and Sweden) and then lot of "just below top fight" ones. This has kind of been his tradition last year as well, doing very well on only few rallies but staying stable and just below top in others. Clearly needs to be able to fight for wins on a bit more rallies for better title chances, slow gravel rallies is what doesn't seem to be his thing (wasn't at MSport either

    Rovanpera - a bit similar to Evans, 2 great rallies (Sweden and Estonia) and rest not so good. Like Evans it's slow gravel rallies (maybe also not Toyota's thing) and tarmac on top

    Tanak - up and including Estonia it actually looked very good, sure it was expected he would have troubles starting in the Hyundai and by Estonia (and major upgrades) it looked like everything was fine. But then on the 3 rallies at the end he won 1 stage only and last two was 3rd slowest Hyundai all or most of the race. Sure the two technical issues had an effect, and he did usually not have great start positions (3-4) but the year before in similar situations the performance was somewhere else.

    Neuville - Again seemingly making mistakes under pressure (Estonia when last Hyundai, Monza 4 times ( first stage, saturday start, then the double mistake with retirement). Also the high-speed rallies (Sweden and Estonia) he still seems to struggle, even with updated car

    Breen - one bad rally, one very good. Very similar to 2019 and the two seasons with Citroen. Getting stable performances over multiple rallies is what he needs focusing on. He has also not yet done a decent tarmac rally in WRC, will he get a chance in this Hyundai lineup?

    Lappi - very good start clearly beating Suninen, but on slower gravel rallies it was not so clear and he was often slower than Suninen. In Estonia he seemed to push too hard trying to get close to Toyota/Hyundai and it cost him position to Suninen at the end. Slow gravel rallies are definitely something he should think of (but he was very good in Turkey 2019), off course the question is what he will do now.

    Suninen - after a bit of a disaster in the first two rallies (Sweden especially) he did good on slow gravel. On fast gravel/snow he has basically been getting slower (also against teammates) since he started in 2017 which is strange.


    Hyundai - overall very good increase in performance both from end of 2019 to Monte and especially between Mexico and Estonia. However still about the same number of technical issues as always, specially the double retirement in Mexico hurt them a lot.

    Toyota - while Hyundai is upgrading they seem to be standing a bit still, the focus area for sure has to be rough gravel rallies. Whether they should do a "switching driver" strategy for 3rd is an open question. Clearly it's a disadvantage in manu fight not to do it. Sure Rovanpera will likely improve but still wont have road-cleaning advantage on gravel and is likely not top 3 candidate on tarmac like Sordo is for Hyundai.

    MSport - How they are basiclaly just another "participant" has been discussed a lot. Sure they got hurt a lot by the COVID situation, but they do have some hard priorities to make. Without any good results to show (either by extremely talented drivers or by "known" fast drivers), they won't attract the kind of "paying" drivers that help them run. (see Loubet and Veiby this year). For 2021 I expect them to basically just call off the season like in 2005 and 2016 and focus on building a new car. But surely they both:
    a) need some drivers to develop the car (don't have to be the fastest drivers, but I doubt drivers with extremely little WRC experience like Formaux can help much in that)
    b) need a plan how to get good driver(s) for 2022 to actually show the car is good

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Suninen - after a bit of a disaster in the first two rallies (Sweden especially) he did good on slow gravel. On fast gravel/snow he has basically been getting slower (also against teammates) since he started in 2017 which is strange.
    Remember Sweden 2019?

    In Finland 2017 the Fiestas still had pace (Evans was second, Suninen fighting for podium, Tänak with good stage times) but already in 2018 they were off the pace of the Toyotas (thanks to lack of aero development and the unbalanced aero on Ogier's car?) and it's just gone worse since.

    Suninen is actually surprisingly good on technical gravel rallies, his podiums are Portugal, Sardegna and Mexico, and he has shown good pace in Sardegna in all years he's done with the WRC car

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Ogier - 3 times he lost close fights towards the end of rallies (Monte, Sweden, Sardinia)

    Neuville - Again seemingly making mistakes under pressure (Estonia when last Hyundai, Monza 4 times ( first stage, saturday start, then the double mistake with retirement). Also the high-speed rallies (Sweden and Estonia) he still seems to struggle, even with updated car

    Rovanpera - rest not so good. Like Evans it's slow gravel rallies (maybe also not Toyota's thing) and tarmac on top
    Suninen - did good on slow gravel
    Toyota Whether they should do a "switching driver" strategy for 3rd is an open question. [..] Sure Rovanpera will likely improve but still wont have road-cleaning advantage on gravel and is likely not top 3 candidate on tarmac like Sordo is for Hyundai.
    Ogier - I think the shortened rallies hurt him this year because knowing when to push and when to avoid punctures has always been part of his armoury. He's quick, and he's savvy, but savvy didn't count for so much in 2020. But... MC wasn't shortened. Maybe he's just getting on a bit...

    Neville - Unfortunately, Thierry does not meet me in a bar in Brussels every Friday to tell me his innermost thoughts. But I have a feeling that his attitude is "the Hyundai ain't quite there, but it's the car I've got so I'll make the most of it". So he pushes like hell and hopes lady luck will smile on him. He's got a hint of Meeke, but not nearly so extreme. Lady luck had a cough this year, and the law of averages got a look in.

    The Rovanpera Question is the Toyota Question. As the rules stand, rotating specialists to exploit road position in cleaning rallies like Sardegna is highly effective. If they could get Loeb for tarmac (if he takes it seriously) and Suninen for slow gravel (I'm sure it could be arranged), that'd be an entirely reasonable approach. But... Ogier will retire one day and they're developing Rovanpera for that day. I suspect Adamo is always looking for a trophy this year to have a budget next year, whilst Toyota can take a longer view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Remember Sweden 2019?

    In Finland 2017 the Fiestas still had pace (Evans was second, Suninen fighting for podium, Tänak with good stage times) but already in 2018 they were off the pace of the Toyotas (thanks to lack of aero development and the unbalanced aero on Ogier's car?) and it's just gone worse since.

    Suninen is actually surprisingly good on technical gravel rallies, his podiums are Portugal, Sardegna and Mexico, and he has shown good pace in Sardegna in all years he's done with the WRC car
    To me the Fiesta always looks like it moves around too much (pitch/roll) in the fast stuff compared with the other two, and as they have developed and got better the Fiesta hasn’t.
    I’m only a guy watching, but it’s the first thing that stands out to me.

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