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    Chris Ingram (GBR) - Ross Whittock (GBR)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Yes. Monza is fine for a super special stage or the show event, but not for a whole WRC event

    Could they combine stages from nearby, like these?

    https://www.rally-maps.com/Rally-Trofeo-Aci-Como-2018
    https://www.rally-maps.com/Rally-1000-Miglia-2020
    This. rumored to be Como

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    Some cracking opinions on Evans and pushing the R5+ class. I just think he's a little worried and he's trying to express what his concerns are, nothing more than that. I don't blame him, to be honest.
    Interesting is his point on the fuel savings by using an e-Turbo versus anti lag - I wonder why that's not been pooposed as part of the new regulations, if it is as straightforward as he says.

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    "It's reckoned 15% of a rally car’s in-stage consumption is fired in and pointlessly exploded while the car’s turbo is kept spinning off-throttle. An electric turbo would have done away with that and improved the consumption by 15%. Such a saving would surely dwarf the benefit of a car through a town in electric mode."

    This Evans quote is quite telling -
    is the future of WRC to be decided between merely appearing "green" with hybrid, or being actually "green-er" with R5+ and also saving costs to the teams ?
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    The electric turbo usage has been mentioned in this forums several times, at least.

    If the future would be based on the R5s, then FIA should already start reorganising the new Rally1-2-3-4 tier system and name Rally2 cars Rally1, Rally3 to Rally 2 and Rally4 to Rally3. So you'd get expensive 4WD class, "budget" 4WD and the entry 2WD class.

    But personally think the same what has been said on this forums tens of times. If the R5/Rally2 formula becomes the top tier, the costs will fly through the sky and become less affordable for the less wealthy. It won't be like the category is at the moment.
    Never stop dreaming because one day it might happen.

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    The manufacturers don't benefit from the electric turbo even though it would make the sport greener. They cannot market electric turbo replacing polluting anti-lag because, well, anti-lag isn't really used on road cars. But hybrids...

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    With electric turbo and lower consumption we would be getting less noise from the cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    The manufacturers don't benefit from the electric turbo even though it would make the sport greener. They cannot market electric turbo replacing polluting anti-lag because, well, anti-lag isn't really used on road cars. But hybrids...
    While you are right that there is quite a difference in marketing potential electric turbos are now used in some production Audis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyler View Post
    This. rumored to be Como
    I thought the main reason for Monza was that they could easily lock it from the public. Would be harder on the roads around Lago di Como but maybe not impossible sinc it's so narrow and steep everywhere.

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    Ryan Champion on the latest AR podcast says that M-Sport have a new-spec engine and a new aero pakage ready to go.

    But as they have unused current-spec engines and unused current aero parts, for financial reasons, they are continuing to use these up first.

    The new engines (and probably the aero) wont be put into the Fiesta WRC until Monte Carlo 2021.

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