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    Quote Originally Posted by reff92 View Post
    We all know how good Ogier is rolling over teammates with his titles. Last three+ years is only confirm that.
    Yeah, poor Lappi would have been a champion last year, if Ogier didn't roll over him, right? Lol.

    Do you seriously think any of the team mates Ogier had in last 3 years had a shot at championship that was somehow screwed by Ogier? Which one and when? In m-sport Tanak and Evans have been showing the speed ocasionally, but the consistency just wasn't there, and it wasn't Ogier's fault. Tanak only became champion material in Toyota. Evans hasn't shown all that much yet either, apart from ocasional good result in a rally or two. And Lappi in Citroen? That was a complete disaster.

    If anything, both Tanak and Evans probably benefited from driving alongside Ogier. Certainly for Tanak it was a year it all started turning around after his relatively long career of speedy crashes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reff92 View Post
    We all know how good Ogier is rolling over teammates with his titles. Last three+ years is only confirm that.
    Well I definitely don't know that. I think it is normal for team orders to happen later in the season when one of team members has clearly better chances for the title.

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    Not saying that it happened here, but the recent "normal" is that team orders happen already in Sweden. (Hyundai last year, Msport the year before)

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    Quote Originally Posted by USER47 View Post
    Yeah, poor Lappi would have been a champion last year, if Ogier didn't roll over him, right? Lol.

    Do you seriously think any of the team mates Ogier had in last 3 years had a shot at championship that was somehow screwed by Ogier? Which one and when? In m-sport Tanak and Evans have been showing the speed ocasionally, but the consistency just wasn't there, and it wasn't Ogier's fault. Tanak only became champion material in Toyota. Evans hasn't shown all that much yet either, apart from ocasional good result in a rally or two. And Lappi in Citroen? That was a complete disaster.

    If anything, both Tanak and Evans probably benefited from driving alongside Ogier. Certainly for Tanak it was a year it all started turning around after his relatively long career of speedy crashes.
    In my opinion brakethrough year for Tänak was year with Dmack. He wasnt able to compete with these tyres everywhere anyway so he learned his pace and to drive his own drive with is own rythm without pushing when its unneccesery or he just isnt able to push anyway. And where there was chance, there he was quick.

    And year with next to Ogier he corroborated these things even more.
    Last edited by Oraamat; 27th January 2020 at 08:16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    watched it too now, quite horrible, Tänak has no breath at all after landing, barely can speak and say it to Martin....but thats totally normal after such a big hits to your body
    100G-s according to Järveoja

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    Quote Originally Posted by cali View Post
    I think believing you or a guy who has done rallying himself (Dimvii) I tend to believe a person with experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eib1 View Post
    100G-s according to Järveoja
    Doubtful, they would have blacked out if G force were that high. Fighter pilots only pull about 9G

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm75 View Post
    Doubtful, they would have blacked out if G force were that high. Fighter pilots only pull about 9G
    No. One can withstand many g's if the duration is very short, just a few milliseconds. Fighter pilots take 9g for much longer times.

    But i do doubt the 90g, since kubicas crash in canada 2007 was only 75g, and he hit a concrete wall at 230km/h.

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    Yeah, saying it was "100G" has close to no informational value. Highest recorded (survived) was 214G in a 2003 IndyCar crash. Yet even below 10G can kill you if it's in a wrong direction over a longer period.

    Also check this:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-forc..._tolerance.svg

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