88. Rallye Automobile de Monte-Carlo 2020

**Mirek** · 27th January 2020, 18:15

Originally Posted by Simmi

4 by Richard Simpson

Sad to see the empty Turini. This is us there exactly ten years a go...

**gorganl2000** · 27th January 2020, 18:16

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

It'll be interesting to see if it does affect Tanak at all.

He's already won the Title and is very family-orientated so the crash might have a psychological impact on his speed and approach to danger.

i don't think it will. Tanak is a tough person/driver mentally, you can tell from his persona. Last year Neuville had a really bad one and he too recovered quickly.

**Mirek** · 27th January 2020, 18:17

Originally Posted by Norm75

Interesting, and quite eye opening Mirek.
Was it the usual vehicle projected into a solid concrete block crash test though?
And do we know if the crash test dummy blacked out

I guess it was against the solid concrete wall, yes. That was the old crash test procedure. Not sure though.

Regarding the black out - just out of curiosity - I blacked out myself in a ski accident few weeks a go even with a helmet on (went spinning backwards over a crest hitting a frozen ground). The blackout took just one or two seconds and the force direction was opposite so nothing really comparable but at least it says that big hit may make you black out for only a very short period of time.

Originally Posted by Norm75

and here is the crux, genuine question and not just arguing for the toss, but if the car is equipped with a device that measures the G force of a crash, would it not have automatically triggered a red flag if a car had an impact measuring 100G?

No, there is nothing like an automatic red flag. I'm quite sure about that.

**dimviii** · 27th January 2020, 18:42

https://www.ewrc.cz/foto/59972-rally...arlo-2020/305/

**mknight** · 27th January 2020, 18:50

Originally Posted by Allez Andruet

This. Tänak's crash was so HUGE that it definitely is a relevant question whether he'll be the same again. In a sport where it's all about hundredths per km these kind of things can make the difference. But, having seen what kind of monster Tänak is at the wheel of a World Rally Car, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if he comes and dominates in Sweden straight from SS1.

In Sweden he might as well dominate. I don't think it will affect his ability to drive fast/push (= he won't get scared).

But I think it might affect his confidence in the tarmac car. Both Loeb and Mikkelsen had ok-ish speed when they first drove the tarmac i20 , then after a few crashes/small misses from both they stopped trusting it and went backwards. (Mikkelsen crashes/issues in Spain 2017 and Monte 2018, Loeb Corsica 2019)

**EstWRC** · 27th January 2020, 19:00

i think it wont affect anything

the guy has been in the fire in past, in water, now in the air had a massive one in Argentina in 2014, also in Australia that year, Finland 2016, Portugal 2014.

so far none of those havent bothered him.

**EstWRC** · 27th January 2020, 19:24

bestof by checkpointrallye https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ugv8R2xTLx4

**doubled1978** · 27th January 2020, 20:29

Originally Posted by mknight

In Sweden he might as well dominate. I don't think it will affect his ability to drive fast/push (= he won't get scared).

But I think it might affect his confidence in the tarmac car. Both Loeb and Mikkelsen had ok-ish speed when they first drove the tarmac i20 , then after a few crashes/small misses from both they stopped trusting it and went backwards. (Mikkelsen crashes/issues in Spain 2017 and Monte 2018, Loeb Corsica 2019)

Maybe, but I suspect he will be just fine. The Hyundai tarmac car is a tricky beast, but if you watch closely Neuville has found a very specific way to get the best out of it without murdering the front tyres with understeer, I think Tanak will be able to do the same and I think his mentality is plenty strong enough to cope with a mistake.

**itix** · 28th January 2020, 00:16

Originally Posted by PLuto

He was doing JWRC only last year, not year before. He was really improving during last year. But like I told, level of 2WD on Monte is not so high.

Alex Kihurani has nothing to do with Pastrana, in past he was codriving Alex Parpottas and some UK or USA drivers.

A bit late to barge into this conversation but Alex Kihurani is one of my favorite people in rallying. His father (also a motorsport nut) is Kenyan in origin and his mother American.

He is very intelligent, has a degree in economics (if I recall right) and had a blog that was very interesting to follow.

Happy they did well.

A great rally overall. The loss of Citroen was not felt as bad as I thought it would be.