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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Detune literally means to build a new car. Very few things can be used from Rally2 in Rally3.
    Ok, but what parts could be carried over?

    - Chassis
    - Gearbox
    - Engine with 30 mm restrictor.
    - Suspension
    - Rest of drivetrain
    - Other parts

    pls, simple yes/no answers.
    If no, pls explain why.

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    Rally3 and Rally2 are made according to different rules and in completely different price tag. If their major parts would be interchangeable the Rally3 would cost over 200 thousand Euro and not half of that. I don't have time to study both regulations in deep but for sure nothing major is interchangeable. The engine is different, the gearbox is made for lower power/torque, the drivetrain as well, the driveshafts have different length. Suspension has different dimensions simply because Rally3 does not have wide track etc etc.
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    Sulland:

    Please tell which Rally3 has 1.6T engine ?


    Remember that R2/Rally4 with 4WD = Rally3

    So your logic says that R5/Rally2 can be changed to Rally4 also if you take 4WD system off
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    None so far, but the rules allows for it.

    Toyota will use 1600, if rumors are correct.

    And the "must be" Rally4 --> Rally3 principle was left when FIA allowed 1620 ccm in Rally3, was it not?'

    But I am guessing that Renault and Peugeot will use their Rally4 engines in their Rally3 cars.
    But Pug could in principle take their 208 T16 R5 engine and modify it to a 30 mm restrictor, or am I mistaken?

    If it is smart or not is another discussion, I was just thinking possibilities from a tech/rules point of view.
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    Will the Fiesta Rally 3 be homologated as right hand steer for the UK? (in addition to left hand steer)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    None so far, but the rules allows for it.

    Toyota will use 1600, if rumors are correct.

    And the "must be" Rally4 --> Rally3 principle was left when FIA allowed 1620 ccm in Rally3, was it not?'

    But I am guessing that Renault and Peugeot will use their Rally4 engines in their Rally3 cars.
    But Pug could in principle take their 208 T16 R5 engine and modify it to a 30 mm restrictor, or am I mistaken?

    If it is smart or not is another discussion, I was just thinking possibilities from a tech/rules point of view.
    I think any of the 1.6 engines PSA has/had (DS3 R3, DS3 R5/208 T16, C3 R5) could be used, but any of these would require a heavy redesign due to different restrictor/electronics/etc, so might as well start from scratch on it, and maybe use some parts from the existing designs. Also the older ones were homologated 7-8 years ago, so homologation time for the engine could be an issue as well.

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    No, EP6 engine family is out of question for Rally3.

    If I am not mistaken you can not use an engine which is not used in the particular vehicle family in stock production. There is no EP6-powered 208 since the coming of the current generation.
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    Any chance to see a Fabia Rally3? They have their fancy new big premises to make use of and new Fabia has a 1.5 TSI engine..

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    I hope so...
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    First deliver to Topp-Cars Rally Team (Hungary)



    Last edited by Andre Oliveira; 24th March 2021 at 18:35.

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