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    Could they have scrapped Shakedown and used Skalla to give the rally two more stages ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    Thursday
    9.00 SD Skalla
    20.08 SSS1 Karlstad

    Friday
    8.42 SS2 Hof-Finnskog 1
    10.08 SS3 Finnskogen 1
    11.08 SS4 Nyckelvattnet 1
    15.00 SS8 Torsby Sprint 1

    Saturday
    8.42 SS5 Hof-Finnskog 2
    10.08 SS6 Finnskogen 2
    11.08 SS7 Nyckelvattnet 2
    15.00 SS16 Torsby Sprint 2

    Sunday
    10.08 SS17 Likenäs 1
    12.18 SS18 Likenäs 2 (Power stage)

    Weird stage numbering...cannot be updated anymore?
    Last edited by AnttiL; 6th February 2020 at 12:09.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Thursday
    9.00 SD Skalla
    20.08 SSS1 Karlstad

    Friday
    8.42 SS2 Hof-Finnskog 1
    10.08 SS3 Finnskogen 1
    11.08 SS4 Nyckelvattnet 1
    15.00 SS8 Torsby Sprint 1

    Saturday
    8.42 SS5 Hof-Finnskog 2
    10.08 SS6 Finnskogen 2
    11.08 SS7 Nyckelvattnet 2
    15.00 SS16 Torsby Sprint 2

    Sunday
    10.08 SS10 Likenäs 1
    12.18 SS11 Likenäs 2 (Power stage)

    Weird stage numbering...cannot be updated anymore?
    I guess it is match with Safety Plans and other documents that would be already with Police, Ambulance, rescue etc.

    It removes any question of doubt.

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    Yeah, that's it. Also, printed road books and other documents are usable as they are for the remaining stages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    https://yle.fi/urheilu/3-11193665

    Here are the main points

    - Rautiainen and Grönholm drove through the four northmost stages
    - They thought rally is driveable under the conditions they saw - far from ideal but roads should withstand and it should be safe
    - Studs will come off, drivers will need to have enough tyres
    - Tyres should be changed in the middle of the day, either with tyre zone or return to service, otherwise he thinks it's not safe
    - Frost is not deep but the surface is hard. There will be ruts on the second pass but the roads will withstand it
    - If there's heavy plus degrees and rain, the second passes will be canceled, because the FWD cars can't pass through the roads
    - Difficult to believe it would be canceled altogether anymore
    - WRC rules article 3.3.3 states that the shortened rally points principle can have exceptions if the conditions are exceptional, and this a such case
    If full studded rallytyres are allowed on recce (are they?) I would recommend standard winter tyres with ordinary studs instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    If full studded rallytyres are allowed on recce (are they?) I would recommend standard winter tyres with ordinary studs instead.
    Supplementary regulations says:

    7.2 STUDDED TYRES FOR RECONNAISSANCE
    Studded tyres may be used during reconnaissance. They must be in conformity with the
    following regulations (see also Appendix 7):
    • The studs shall be solid, cylindrical and flatcut
    • The length of the stud is limited to 15 millimeters
    • The weight of the stud is limited to 2,5 grams
    • The maximum overhang is limited to 2,0 millimetres
    • The studs must be mounted into the tyre from the outside
    • The number of studs must not exceed 250 per tyre
    • The body of the stud must be solid
    Any infringement to this rule will be reported to the Stewards, who will consider a penalty
    according to the International Sporting Code Art. 12.

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    Why they just allow gravel tires (most fitted) on those roads which dont have any snow. Some pics looked like there is total "summer" gravel roads. Why cannot make this half gravel rally?? dont need to cancel all the stages. Dont think that would be too hard for organisers (FIA). They had now more than two weeks time to solve this problem. At least As long as they cannot move this rally to northern Sweden. just wondering...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Could they have scrapped Shakedown and used Skalla to give the rally two more stages ?
    No point in that when we can see all cars 3-5 times in shakedown, wasn't a lot of ice in there so risky putting in the rally anyway. Looks like 9 stages pluss shakedown is possible if you do Karlstad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thousandlakes View Post
    Why they just allow gravel tires (most fitted) on those roads which dont have any snow. Some pics looked like there is total "summer" gravel roads. Why cannot make this half gravel rally?? dont need to cancel all the stages. Dont think that would be too hard for organisers (FIA). They had now more than two weeks time to solve this problem. At least As long as they cannot move this rally to northern Sweden. just wondering...
    Here we go again....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thousandlakes View Post
    Why they just allow gravel tires (most fitted) on those roads which dont have any snow. Some pics looked like there is total "summer" gravel roads. Why cannot make this half gravel rally?? dont need to cancel all the stages. Dont think that would be too hard for organisers (FIA). They had now more than two weeks time to solve this problem. At least As long as they cannot move this rally to northern Sweden. just wondering...
    Jesus christ, again. This deserves N.O.T kind of reply.

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