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    Quote Originally Posted by wrc2017 View Post
    is Ogier as fast as Tanak? my answer is no.
    therefore if Ogier was in Toyota this year, he would not have won the championship either?

    what if the Toyota isn't as strong as he thinks? it was Tanak making it look good.
    i assume this is the first year you have followed the wrc?

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    So you think in a straight fight Ogier is as quick as Tanak??

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    OZ Citröen Press Release.. Full committed to 2020

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    Pierre Budar, Citroën Racing Team Principal

    “We have learned the lessons from Spain and everyone on the team is totally committed to the goal of getting back on the podium in Australia, as well as continuing to plan for 2020 so that we can start the new season in the best possible shape. If the weather stays dry, then Esapekka and Janne will have a great chance here. It’s an event they really like. Meanwhile, although Sébastien and Julien aren't as well placed in the running order, they have already proven in the past that they are capable of producing very strong performances from that kind of position.”

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    Interview with Adamo about securing Tänak signature : https://www.autohebdo.fr/wrc/actuali...es-207201.html

    Google translate helps somehow.

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    When did you think about recruiting Ott Tänak?

    In January.


    #8 Ott Tänak - Martin Järveoja #8
    - World Rally Champions 2019 -

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrc2017 View Post
    So you think in a straight fight Ogier is as quick as Tanak??
    I believe that in a straight fight in the same car ogier is faster than tanak. Just like has been proven in 2017.

    Ogier is the man who was faster than loeb, the man who ridiculed everyone in his s2000 year, the man who demoted every single team mate he has had. And most of all, ogier is the man who has won 6 championships in 2 different cars.
    Tanak is the man who just happens to have a very dominant car and bad teammates this year.

    Next year will be exciting, because now we will really see how much of his speed was due to the toyota. Perhaps i will have to adjust my opinion after a few rally's, but untill then there is not a single reason to think that tanak is faster than ogier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    I believe that in a straight fight in the same car ogier is faster than tanak. Just like has been proven in 2017.

    Ogier is the man who was faster than loeb, the man who ridiculed everyone in his s2000 year, the man who demoted every single team mate he has had. And most of all, ogier is the man who has won 6 championships in 2 different cars.
    Tanak is the man who just happens to have a very dominant car and bad teammates this year.

    Next year will be exciting, because now we will really see how much of his speed was due to the toyota. Perhaps i will have to adjust my opinion after a few rally's, but untill then there is not a single reason to think that tanak is faster than ogier.
    Seems that we follow different WRC

    Proven in 2017? Can not agree. I remember some team-orders in place. Ogier was clear number one by team-orders, had often improvements and new parts on car (so not 100% equal always).

    Ogier is fast, no question about that, 6 titles didn't come as gifts. Is Ogier faster than Tänak in 2019+, I doubt. So, I have different opinion. The truth here is something we will never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post

    Ogier is the man who was faster than loeb,.
    no ,he was slower all year ,with better road position at same car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    I believe that in a straight fight in the same car ogier is faster than tanak. Just like has been proven in 2017.
    2017

    Rally wins

    Ogier 2
    Tänak 2

    Stage wins

    Tänak 30
    Ogier 22

    Rally leaders

    Tänak 40
    Ogier 14
    #8 Ott Tänak - Martin Järveoja #8
    - World Rally Champions 2019 -

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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    Next year will be exciting, because now we will really see how much of his speed was due to the toyota.
    Yeah, because there were no signs of any speed when Tänak was at M-Sport...

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