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    Quote Originally Posted by Thousandlakes View Post

    And only three men can win title next year honesly. Getting boring again.
    Was it any different in 2018 or 2019 with four manufacturers? Is it worse than two-way battles? or an era where one team was miles ahead of the others?

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    Wow! The silliest silly season I can remember! Maybe matched by VW leaving. Can't blame Ogier. Citroen did a mess of it. It will be sad to have fewer cars and one less manufacturer, but it was good while it lasted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indreq View Post
    Sad day for WRC. And if i were to look one person to blame, i would point to Mäkinen. It baffles me how he could not keep fastest driver in fastest car with such a budget as available for him. Maybe it is because his wifes management style, maybe because Märting demanded R5 program and that broke the deal, or maybe Mäkinen underestimated Tänaks options and overestimated his own position. Other chips just follow the first - Ogiers departure makes sense as surely in TGR he has bigger chances than in Citroen. Lets now keep fingers crossed that Evans stays in M-Sport, otherwise it will be 2 team series, instead of 2,5 team series.
    So we will write to history books that toxic Mia ended the brightest era of WRC...

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    Could be with one less manufacturer, the R5 field could be nice in 20!

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    I personally don't care much about that shitty team. Sorry but it's true-from 2017 onwards I mean. Shame just that two or three seats are now permanently no more.

    Some of memorable moments:
    2017:
    -building a crappy car
    -unpredictably undriveable car
    -lack of testing
    -no budget (despite Abu Dhabi support)

    2018:
    -again unpredictably undriveable car
    -no listening to driver feedbacks
    -sacking Meeke
    -no budget despite PSA didn't run any other official programme

    2019:
    -running only two cars
    -maybe a little better now with car since Ogier drive it, but still dissappointment
    -no budget despite the most rich sponsor in the whole rallying scene
    -not chosing Ostberg despite his contribution to the team for a few years.
    -not giving the same support to the Lappi
    -leaving the field blaming all others than themselves.

    With so many years of experience and so many titles they can all go in the corner and cry a little.

    At the end I can say just thank you for your little show over the years. Without them it wouldn't be funny moments.

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    Hopefully M-Sport would take the drivers and manufactures championship in 2020, it somehow would feel right.

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    some guys on twitter and estonian forum are blaming Adamo and Tänak for this

    yeah right, they were the ones who pulled Citroens plug out.
    #8 Ott Tänak - Martin Järveoja #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Was it any different in 2018 or 2019 with four manufacturers? Is it worse than two-way battles? or an era where one team was miles ahead of the others?
    Nothing changed. Same old story. Just disappointed todays news as rally fan. Rally need also quantity. Lets say 5-6 manus and three car each team. Then all the best drivers are there. Just dreaming here. Maybe hybrid era is bring them!

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    Someone should call to John Elkann, at least he is motorsports fan. Maybe he could negotiate with Koreans restoring Loeb to Citroen to have a first class driver and start to chase the tenth title

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    There are rumours just for Subaru running alongside M-Sport. If that happens it doesn't changes anything except brand

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