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    Quote Originally Posted by tomhlord View Post
    I fear the worst, but have my fingers crossed for good news!

    When you look at Citroen last year, Ogier has done well considering and a big improvement. Sure, he wants to win the title, but to give up on a big project early is, I think, pretty lame. Plus, *that* tweet wasn't cool. If he goes to Toyota, I don't think it reflects well.
    Agreed.

    I wonder if French fans will see him as a betrayer if it’s him leaving first of all and making with it Citroen to leave
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Not cool.

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    Sad day for WRC. And if i were to look one person to blame, i would point to Mäkinen. It baffles me how he could not keep fastest driver in fastest car with such a budget as available for him. Maybe it is because his wifes management style, maybe because Märting demanded R5 program and that broke the deal, or maybe Mäkinen underestimated Tänaks options and overestimated his own position. Other chips just follow the first - Ogiers departure makes sense as surely in TGR he has bigger chances than in Citroen. Lets now keep fingers crossed that Evans stays in M-Sport, otherwise it will be 2 team series, instead of 2,5 team series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indreq View Post
    Lets now keep fingers crossed that Evans stays in M-Sport, otherwise it will be 2 team series, instead of 2,5 team series.
    To me Evans to Toyota is already confirmed as much as Kalle.

    According to today's news/rumours, the teams are:

    Hyundai: Tänak, Neuville, Sordo/Loeb
    Toyota: Ogier, Evans, Rovanperä
    M-Sport: Lappi, Suninen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indreq View Post
    Sad day for WRC. And if i were to look one person to blame, i would point to Mäkinen. It baffles me how he could not keep fastest driver in fastest car with such a budget as available for him. Maybe it is because his wifes management style, maybe because Märting demanded R5 program and that broke the deal, or maybe Mäkinen underestimated Tänaks options and overestimated his own position. Other chips just follow the first - Ogiers departure makes sense as surely in TGR he has bigger chances than in Citroen. Lets now keep fingers crossed that Evans stays in M-Sport, otherwise it will be 2 team series, instead of 2,5 team series.
    I would say Citroen can blame themselves, they failed to produce a winning car for whatever reason and this is the ultimate end result

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMSS View Post
    I would say Citroen can blame themselves, they failed to produce a winning car for whatever reason and this is the ultimate end result
    Yep. The team led by Matton fucked up badly with the designing and then development of the dog - and they've been playing catch up ever since.

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    Ogier will be announced as a Toyota driver on Monday:

    https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/1...mes-ogier-exit

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    In a weird sort of way, Citroen has sacked Kris Meeke twice.

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    Craziest silly season ever!

    This won’t be topped! Only if the news come that WRC as series is done and dusted for all
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    In a way, Tanak has handed Ogier the title back already imo.

    Seb will win the title in the most driveable car - which the Yaris is.

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