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    Well, honestly, I think marketing can't do miracles when the product itself is shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommeke_B View Post
    Well, honestly, I think marketing can't do miracles when the product itself is shit.

    Well for more than 15 years 60-62% of all cars in US rally have been various barely warmed up Subies of one sort or another..

    I think that's proof that marketing can do miracles when the product is obviously shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Arent the big sales in Norway in fully electric cars now though ?

    Citroen doesnt have them in it's range, only hybrids from next year. I dont see Ostberg making the difference if the cars just arent what Norwegians want...
    But DS has the e208 twin, DS3 Crossback, and still most do not separate Citroen and DS as different brands!

    Same same, if a Norwegian importer want to use rally as a way to sell more cars, it is a good thing. Not many car importer companies in scandinavia use motorsport in their branding until now. Citroen used Petter some years ago, and sales went up many %, so lets see if Mads can do the same.

    Lets hope more follows, maybe Hyundai?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deephouse View Post
    Is it possible that he will ''just test'' aero from WRC car for R5 spec C3 to later adapt to that car?
    Why when it's not allowed on R5?

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    TBH if Citroen didnt think it was worth carrying on without one of the top 3 WRC drivers, it's hard to see privateer Ostberg doing well enough to to promote them in one market.

    Hyundai & Toyota should have most of the top 5 places tied up on every rally and then there's likely an M-Sport. The competition is brutal and ad money can be better spent elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    TBH if Citroen didnt think it was worth carrying on without one of the top 3 WRC drivers, it's hard to see privateer Ostberg doing well enough to to promote them in one market.
    However I was talking marketing in Norway. Not worldwide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    TBH if Citroen didnt think it was worth carrying on without one of the top 3 WRC drivers, it's hard to see privateer Ostberg doing well enough to to promote them in one market.

    Hyundai & Toyota should have most of the top 5 places tied up on every rally and then there's likely an M-Sport. The competition is brutal and ad money can be better spent elsewhere.
    You should consider that the half of the good drivers will probably not be at the start of the most of the rallies across the next season. Latvala, Meeke, Paddon, Breen, Mikkelsen (except if those last ones really end up in satellite team). So it's pretty sure that Ostberg could finish on average 5th or 6th places everywhere - on Turkey maybe even higher.

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    "The history with Citroën ends -officialy- tomorrow..."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira View Post
    "The history with Citroën ends -officialy- tomorrow..."
    Tomorrow, "as the year ends". The final sentence promises "news in a couple of days".

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    old thread brought up by a spam-bot but why not for 2022

    2022 prediciton from me

    Toyota

    #69 Rovanperä Kalle - Halttunen Jonne
    #33 Evans Elfyn - Martin Scott
    #4 Lappi Esapekka - Ferm Janne/ #17 Ogier Sébastien - Ingrassia Julien
    #18 Katsuta Takamoto - Barritt Daniel

    Hyundai

    #8 Tänak Ott - Järveoja Martin
    #11 Neuville Thierry - Wydaeghe Martijn
    #6 Dani Sordo/ #2 Solberg Oliver - Johnston Aaron

    M-sport

    #42 Breen Craig - Nagle Paul
    #16 Fourmaux Adrien - Jamoul Renaud
    #44 Greensmith Gus - Patterson Chris
    Last edited by EstWRC; 16th August 2021 at 10:14.
    #8 Ott Tänak - Martin Järveoja #8
    - World Rally Champions 2019 -

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