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    Quote Originally Posted by RS View Post
    If we’re talking about guys breaking contracts now, Neuville in a Toyota would be interesting.
    If you're playing scramble, why not Adamo to Toyota? Things would happen.

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    I really hope Ogier doesn't go to Toyota as it might quarantee that Citroen leaves after 2020 or even sooner.

    The things that are against it:
    - he spend most of the year changing C3 and now when finally all the upgrades are coming he should change to a different car knowing he has no time to make it suit him?
    - some of the reasons for Tanak leaving would also piss off Ogier a lot (reliability, people leaving etc.)
    - travel to Finland when he lives in Germany with wife and kid takes quite a lot longer
    - I think Ogier cares a lot about what French people think about him. Leaving Citroen now for Toyota just before ending career is not likely to be a popular move
    - Being at Citroen and very much involved with testing the bigger C3 aero as well as the "wing affair", he also sees that with smaller wing Toyota is no longer massively faster than others

    All this being said I am sure Toyota will do everything possible to try to get him (Japanese more than Tommi, even to the point of ordering Tommi to hire him)

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    This silly season is something else. What's next, the old VW team reunited at Toyota? (Ogier, Latvala, Mikkelsen)

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    Toywagen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Toyota has made a big investment to enter and achieve what they have in the WRC.
    I dont see how they would try to compete with Hyundai in 2020 without the only other elite driver (Ogier).
    They need to be in the fight for both Titles and a team of second-string driver's isnt going to cut it.
    Come on Eddie, PSA is an independent manufacturer and Citroen is on the WRC by its own rigth and will. Ogier is under contract until the end of 2020 and he’s Citroen main asset; they hugely invest on him, not only financially but also in terms of sport strategy and even brand image, breaking their long partnership with Loeb. They simply can’t let him go.
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    Was it a 2yr deal Ogier signed? I was sure it was a 1year plus a 1yr option to extend (ogier talks like it was), and you can bet your life that if that was the case, it wasn't Citroen putting in the "option" for another year. That would've been Ogier protecting his own ass from being tied to the C3 and Citroen if they cant get it right this year - even after the upgrades. A smart negotiator like Ogier could have something in the contract that allows him to walk regardless, even if it's a straight up 2year deal.

    Maybe that's why Citroen ran the aero updates in a pre rally Spain test? Ogier will want to know now how the updates feel, because they've been testing and looking for aero evolutions for a whole year now at Citroen. Ogier simply can't wait any longer for Citroen to sort the car, he has to know going into 2020 and see proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    The same was said about Neymar going to Barcelona as was his wish, but he’s still playing for PSG…(sorry for the OT).

    Ogier will continue with Citroen next year, as planned.
    That's what I have heard now from multiple places. To make things easier we could make a bet

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    Quote Originally Posted by er88 View Post
    Was it a 2yr deal Ogier signed? I was sure it was a 1year plus a 1yr option to extend (ogier talks like it was) ...
    Yep, that’s what I also recall, but options can be signed earlier and some time ago Mrs. Jackson and Budar confirmed Ogier in 2020.


    Quote Originally Posted by cali View Post
    That's what I have heard now from multiple places. To make things easier we could make a bet
    It’d be hard to collect, unless you’re planning to 'spectate' Rally de Portugal next year
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    Yep, that’s what I also recall, but options can be signed earlier and some time ago Mrs. Jackson and Budar confirmed Ogier in 2020.




    It’d be hard to collect, unless you’re planning to 'spectate' Rally de Portugal next year
    If that's an invitation I'm willing to consider it

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