2019 Hungarian GP - Hungaroring Mogyoród

[Nitrodaze]

The current Hungaroring layout has been in place since 2003 as a revision of the previous layout, to facilitate overtaking. The first Hungarian F1 GP race took place in 1986 when Hungary was still under Soviet Union control. Hence it was the first F1 race ever behind the iron curtain. The 1st Hungarian F1 race was won by Nigel Piquet in the Williams-Honda.

The track is 4.381 km (2.722 mi) long with fourteen corners and three major straights. A full race is 70 laps over 306.630 km (190.531 mi) distance. The most successful driver of this track is the five time world champion Lewis Hamilton who has won this race six times. Vettel is the only other driver on the current grid to win this race, he has won it twice. Mclaren ramains the most successful team to race this track with 11 wins.

Micheal Schumarcher currently hold the race lap record set in 2004 on this track at 1:19:071. The fastest lap ever on this track was set by Sebastien Vettel during prastise 3 in 2018 at 1:16:170. Lewis Hamilton is the last winner of this race.



With barely a week to recover from a rollercoaster of a race at Hockenheimring, the F1 bandwagon rolls into Budapest. In its wake, was the worst Mercedes showing of the season and the worst 125 years celebration of all time. Mercedes in their period racing gear looked comical as their race unravelled and Redbull was close at hand to swoop up the winners trophy once more.

If the last three races are anything to go by, this race is most likely to be spectacular. For a start Mercedes would be seeking to return to winning ways. And Ferrari shall be seeking to win their first race of the season. But Redbull would come into this race weekend with a swagger in their steps, knowing Mercedes and Ferrari would be quietly nervous of them.

It is a Hamilton track, hence it would be difficult but not impossible for anyone else to win it. But this track may suit the Ferrari car just as well as it would the Mercedes. Hence, l expect that Ferrari may give Mercedes their closest fight since the beginning of the season. My gut feeling suggest that Leclerc may take pole this weekend. If he does, he may win this race. Whatrever the case, Hamilton would need to dig deep to ensure he comes on top this weekend.

Now check out this Hungarian bird and let the cockles of your heart be warmed for this Hungarian GP.

[Big Ben]

Nope, Hungary was not in the Soviet Union.

[Nitrodaze]

Nope, Hungary was not in the Soviet Union.

Hungary was under Soviet control for 45 years since 1944 during the second world war. The Soviet presence ended in 1991 after the 2nd attempt at a revolution which started in 1989. The 1st revolution attempt in 1956 was crushed mercilessly by the Soviet regime of the time. Over the 45 years of occupation, over 600, 000 Hungarians were taken as slaves for forced labour in the then Soviet Union. Nearly 200,000 of those taken died in forced labour. Of course, in the wider scope of things such as what happened in Africa or in Asia, this number is minuscule. But it is still souls we are talking about nonetheless.

Read the following for more details:-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungar...nion_relations

[zako85]

Over the 45 years of occupation, over 600, 000 Hungarians were taken as slaves for forced labour in the then Soviet Union.

This statement is utter BS in that the Hungarians were being taken into forced laborallegedly for _over 45 years_. The ones who were taken into forced labor were certainly prisoners of world war II, so taken during or immediately after WWII. Those who don't recall it any more, Hungarians, Romanians, Italians, and other Axis allies assisted Nazi Germany in the siege of Stalingrad, got surrounded, and many were taken prisoner in 1943. Yes, it probably was not a field trip.

[Nitrodaze]

This statement is utter BS. The ones who were taking into forced labor were certainly prisoners of world war II. Those who don't recall it any more, Hungarians, Italians, and other Axis allies assisted Nazi Germany in the siege of Stalingrad, got surrounded, and many were taken prisoner.

Well that is not how the Hungarians see it. I wonder if you were there to see what happened to be confident to state that it is BS. Besides, there was and is an international convention for the treatment of war prisoners. And that did not include forced labour of non-combatant persons. Also, you cannot be certain that all of those 600, 000 people were Nazi sympathizers. What about those Hungarians that resisted the occupation of their country. This is like saying all muslims are terrorists.

In war, different measures would apply for persons that is believed to have assisted the enemy. Extracting these persons into labour camps may be one of those measures. We cannot ignore the fact that it happened. Because there is no evidence that these persons were tried in a court of law and were formally sentenced to the labour camps. If you can provide such an evidence then l shall duly apologize and remove my comments.

And there was the issue of forced occupation of these sovereign states amongst many other things we can talk about if we were to go into the details of the whole affair. I would not dismiss the history of a country as BS.


This is the unfortunate history of our world. It is ugly to reiterate, but it was what it was. Times have moved on and we must learn from it which is why we talk about these things. The worst thing we can do is to bury it into the past because it is too awkward to consider that men did these things to other men.

[aykutbilir]

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[The Black Knight]

Not sure about LeClerc taking pole in what is basically Monaco without the buildings. Downforce is Ferrari’s achilles heel. I’d fancy Max to take his first pole position rather than LeClerc. It’s about time Max got the ball rolling on that one. Hamilton was comfortable over Bottas here last year so it’ll be interesting to see how much Bottas has studied Hamilton’s data in order to catch up.

[Nitrodaze]

Not sure about LeClerc taking pole in what is basically Monaco without the buildings. Downforce is Ferrari’s achilles heel. I’d fancy Max to take his first pole position rather than LeClerc. It’s about time Max got the ball rolling on that one. Hamilton was comfortable over Bottas here last year so it’ll be interesting to see how much Bottas has studied Hamilton’s data in order to catch up.

I don't think Redbull have the horsepower to take poll, but it would be a pleasant surprise if they can manage to beat Mercedes on a typical Mercedes track. Only Ferrari have the sort of horsepower to get into Mercedes territory. I think it is an opportunity for Ferrari to snatch poll from Mercedes and go on to win the race, if they can avoid any errors.

I don't know what the temperatures are like in Hungary this weekend, that may be a factor as well.

[Nitrodaze]

Not sure about LeClerc taking pole in what is basically Monaco without the buildings. Downforce is Ferrari’s achilles heel. I’d fancy Max to take his first pole position rather than LeClerc. It’s about time Max got the ball rolling on that one. Hamilton was comfortable over Bottas here last year so it’ll be interesting to see how much Bottas has studied Hamilton’s data in order to catch up.

Wow, you called it man! That was as clear a notice as Redbull can make to Mercedes. There is a new contender on the grid, Verstapenn, Redbull and Honda. Wow

[Big Ben]

Hungary was under Soviet control for 45 years since 1944 during the second world war. The Soviet presence ended in 1991 after the 2nd attempt at a revolution which started in 1989. The 1st revolution attempt in 1956 was crushed mercilessly by the Soviet regime of the time. Over the 45 years of occupation, over 600, 000 Hungarians were taken as slaves for forced labour in the then Soviet Union. Nearly 200,000 of those taken died in forced labour. Of course, in the wider scope of things such as what happened in Africa or in Asia, this number is minuscule. But it is still souls we are talking about nonetheless.

Read the following for more details:-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungar...nion_relations

Thanks for the spinning class. Hungary starts about 10km from where I leave and we were (begrudgingly) part of Hungary for much of our history. We know where the borders with the Soviet union were and that the Soviets didn't stay within their borders. Still Hungary was not in the Soviet union just as Iraq is not a US state. Would have been better to just admit you phrased it wrong. No shame in that... on the contrary