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    Ricciardo was 0.033 seconds behind his teammate, but that difference translates to 5 places on the track. Jesus.

    Also, Norris has looked terrible today considering that he got knocked out in Q1 while his teammate got through to Q3. Do we know if he had any issues or is it just one of these days?

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    Ferrari are a joke. Shambolic by the team and another blown opportunity for leclerc. Alfa Romero and Haas make better use of tbe Ferrari engine. What an embarrassment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N4D13 View Post
    Ricciardo was 0.033 seconds behind his teammate, but that difference translates to 5 places on the track. Jesus.

    Also, Norris has looked terrible today considering that he got knocked out in Q1 while his teammate got through to Q3. Do we know if he had any issues or is it just one of these days?
    Yup. Norris is just off. Said in the interview that he simply didn't do a good job.

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    Still no sense to the rage every time we come here and I realise how much they botched what used to be a fantastic race track back in the day. Morons replacing it with this piece of shite tarmac that’s there now.

    Another Quali, another Ferrari implosion. Hamilton on pole for 4th time this year. Bottas a very long way behind - 3 tenths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Knight View Post
    Still no sense to the rage every time we come here and I realise how much they botched what used to be a fantastic race track back in the day. Morons replacing it with this piece of shite tarmac that’s there now.

    Another Quali, another Ferrari implosion. Hamilton on pole for 4th time this year. Bottas a very long way behind - 3 tenths.
    This is probably the first race that l felt Bottas under performed. It was a really great lap by Verstapenn and it made Bottas look very ordinary in a Mercedes. It was a bit embarrassing for Mercedes if we go by the expression on Toto's face.

    The old track was a scary death trap. It even scared the F1 establishment enough to force a change. German race tracks are where true racing courage are displayed. The chicanes of the old track marked places where drivers of old had been killed racing this track.

    The race this weekend, is probably the last German GP race for some time to come. The F1 establishment have been unsuccessful at accomodating the challenges of the Hockenheimring management. There is unlikely to be a German GP in the 2020 calendar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by truefan72 View Post
    Ferrari are a joke. Shambolic by the team and another blown opportunity for leclerc. Alfa Romero and Haas make better use of tbe Ferrari engine. What an embarrassment.
    It is interesting that the issues in both cars originated from Binotto's native department [PowerTrain Dept]. This is a major low, I think they would have to write off the 2019 season and move their focus to doing it right next season. I can say things were not as bad as this at any point of Arrivabene's tenure. With Haas and Alfa Romeo doing so well with the Ferrari enbine, it is a good indication that Ferrari did not go about their preparations for this race very well. And they got caught out by sloppy preparations of the powertrain on a weekend that they may have won the race if they could have started with at least one car on the front row.

    Ferrari are not ready to be world champions. The bar is too high nowadays to achieve such a feat. However, it is interesting to see that Redbull are ramping up and are consistently giving Ferrari and Mercedes notice of their intentions to claim the top spot again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Knight View Post
    Still no sense to the rage every time we come here and I realise how much they botched what used to be a fantastic race track back in the day. Morons replacing it with this piece of shite tarmac that’s there now.

    Another Quali, another Ferrari implosion. Hamilton on pole for 4th time this year. Bottas a very long way behind - 3 tenths.
    Agreed. Both this track and the old zeltweg in austria are just horrible abominations of once glorious tracks. They could have made minor modifications to the old hockenheim but this current layout is disgusting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrodaze View Post
    It is interesting that the issues in both cars originated from Binotto's native department [PowerTrain Dept]. This is a major low, I think they would have to write off the 2019 season and move their focus to doing it right next season. I can say things were not as bad as this at any point of Arrivabene's tenure. With Haas and Alfa Romeo doing so well with the Ferrari enbine, it is a good indication that Ferrari did not go about their preparations for this race very well. And they got caught out by sloppy preparations of the powertrain on a weekend that they may have won the race if they could have started with at least one car on the front row.

    Ferrari are not ready to be world champions. The bar is too high nowadays to achieve such a feat. However, it is interesting to see that Redbull are ramping up and are consistently giving Ferrari and Mercedes notice of their intentions to claim the top spot again.
    Yeah. It is clear that Arrivibene was the least of their problems. What's embarrassing is that they have a very good car under them andvit is just sheer incompetence that lets them dien time and time again. Lacks standards, ridiculous strategy calls. a lack of proper oversight. Poor decision making. Etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by truefan72 View Post
    Yeah. It is clear that Arrivibene was the least of their problems. What's embarrassing is that they have a very good car under them andvit is just sheer incompetence that lets them dien time and time again. Lacks standards, ridiculous strategy calls. a lack of proper oversight. Poor decision making. Etc
    What I find most embarrassing is that most of these bad strategy calls are plain as day obvious incorrect decisions that they do. I’ve been at races where, even as a spectator in the crowd, it’s obvious the decisions they have taken are wrong. Back in the day of Schumacher it was posssible to make these kind of decisions and get away with it on hunches but now with linited strategies available due to no refuelling and shite Pirelli tires, everything is data driven. Just look at some of the strategies they gave LeClerc like in China.

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    I am expecting an unusual outcome today. Ferrari can still pull of a win if circumstances favour them, such as an opportune safety car period.

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