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19th August 2019, 17:47 #281
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I would add to Tommeke that on his photos this is a 5th gear corner! It's this place (Ingram had 140 km/h in the corner): https://youtu.be/v3Jrmg0iAZE?t=282
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19th August 2019, 17:57 #282
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Gryazin trolling himself
https://twitter.com/PorkyInside/stat...40455998234625
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19th August 2019, 17:58 #283
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this event must be a WRC round!
#8 Ott Tänak - Martin Järveoja #8
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19th August 2019, 18:07 #284
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Gryazin:
Whatever the outcome of the Barum Czech Rally Zlín for us (OK, we are upset!), we’ll never forget this event first of all by the remarkable special stage Semetín – one of the most challenging and exciting in the ERC.
https://youtu.be/l7FCcXbif8s
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19th August 2019, 18:34 #285
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Unfortunate and very scary accident of Hýbner from the historic event. The crew is fortunately ok, only the car is gone.
https://youtu.be/lThlmkyg5Cg?t=48
Jakeš braking the wheel on Pindula: https://youtu.be/lThlmkyg5Cg?t=82Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump
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19th August 2019, 18:46 #286
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It would be a dream to see the WRC drivers and cars in this region, but I think it will only remain a dream. The Barum Rally is probably the best organized event in ERC (and better organized than many WRC events). But being in central Europe the crowds would be huge, and I don't know if the region could take it. There are few access roads so getting from and to the stages is difficult, not even talking about traffic jams that could make things difficult for the crews competing in the event. Also there are not that many hotels (the whole region is full already with ERC event).
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19th August 2019, 19:14 #287
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19th August 2019, 20:05 #288
“All ERC3 drivers had red flag. Franceschi stopped on stage and then continued, and after rally organizers changed only his time giving 1 extra minute to national time. It dropped him to 4th positon but still before Torn, what resulted that Llarena jump to 1st place. In this way they destroyed Torn Championship and rally win to Franceschi. After rally the evidences that Llarena had puncture on last stage come out, but stewards did not change his time and penalized only Franceschi and Torn in result. There is lot of question marks:
1. Why they looked only on Franceschi stage time and changed it
2. Why they add him 1 minute? If they add more then Torn would have won the title
3. Why they did not penalized Llarena for driving on puncture? There is gps evidence that Erik Cais was faster 12 sec on the spl,it than Llarena who had puncture and would have lost more for sure. Be aware that before the stage Cais had only 5.6 sec drop to Llarena and he will win the rally, what resulted again in Torn winning champion title.
FIA ERC should be equal to all competitors what means that or they are giving the same time to everybody or panalized each single driver if had a problem on canceled stage.
This is how Champion title is stolen due to not fair play game.”
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19th August 2019, 20:27 #289
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As far as I understood from Franceschis comment his time was changed based on a protest from certain competitor (Peugeot, Llarena?) - that's answer to your first question why only one time was changed.
Franceschi clearly said they were stopped three times for an overall time roughly equal to one minute. This is answer to your question number 2.
Hard to answer the third question without knowing more. Either nobody protested against Llarena's time (hard to believe) or the GSP data didn't show anything so exceptional to change his time by some small margin and to move Cais to the first place. Take into account that if Llarena was 12 seconds slower than Cais on let's say 15 km it's less than 0,5 s/km which means he was still faster than majority of R2 drivers hence there is hardly any reason to make an exceptional change of his time compared to the others. That is something completely different than a competitor standing for one minute here and there and obviously having big problems to even move.
If the car is stopped it's very clear from the GPS. Similar thing happened with Kostka and Mareš after Gryazin's crash. Mareš slowed down but probably didn't stop completely - he got no time back. Kostka clearly stopped at Gryazin (as shown on the onboard in one of the Mediasport videos) and his time was later adjusted.Last edited by Mirek; 19th August 2019 at 20:45.
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19th August 2019, 20:44 #290
I added the ""
Not mine the words
TBH I dont get why some places have anti-cut devices when other identical kind of places allow huge cutting and the throwing of dirt all over the road.
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