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    Quote Originally Posted by svstock View Post
    I heard M-Sport appealed not against the time alocated to Franceschi but protested against the one alocated to Llarena because there were some reports Llarena drove with a puncture before the stage was canceled. Take it as a rumor only.

    What I know for sure is that Cais was fastest halfway the stage and quite possibly would win the rally if Vlček didn't crash.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    from Francheschis facebook

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    What a desappointment..

    At the last ES of this Barum Rally, we have had to stop 3 times due to a technical problem on our Ford Fiesta.
    After leaving, the red flag �� was triggered following the accident of a competitor preceding us .. (red flag = SS canceled). In our misfortune we are lucky ..

    But, well after the end of hostilities, GPS analysis was requested by a competitor.

    Appraisal: estimate of our loss of time close to a minute ..

    Decision: 1 minute added to the lump sum.

    So we do not win this Barum Rally and our teammate Ken Torn is not ERC Junior Champion ... really sad and frustrated for the whole Msport team .. ������

    We will remember our beautiful performance ... the job was done ..

    Sometimes there are complicated decisions to understand.

    Nothing more to say...

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    Official results are signed by FIA stewards: https://www.czechrally.com/wcd/docs/...cation-erc.pdf

    Ingram's onboard SS9 which he won: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3Jrmg0iAZE

    That stage was from 2/3 new for everyone (not used in last 11 years). I was at 4:43 in the first run and 5:25 in the second one.
    Last edited by Mirek; 19th August 2019 at 01:51.
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    Was Passats de Canto video already here?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-P7mgNRf4U

    Crash of Lahola: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlhNbuRrWL8
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    at least we have a explanation now but estonian rally god strikes again i must say.....

    but how come they come up with the 1 minute loss? maybe he would have lost 2 minutes with his problem or wouldnt even reached the stage end without red flag? then would have Torn ended up in 4th place and had been the champ.

    man it is so hard to be estonian rally fan with all the rotten luck all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KKS View Post
    check ewrc https://www.ewrc-results.com/profile...exey-lukyanuk/
    crash, crash and crash. Even if he was reminded not crash - he will crash anyway. I follow Lukiyanuk a bit longer than you, cuz you not following national Baltic championships or russian nat. championship. And nothing change since that time. One exceptional year was 2018 when he crash less than usual.
    strange, strange and strange.

    In my opinion crash - is a significant damage to the car, like Azores this year.
    if you check thoroughly, the main part of Lucas's offs were pure technical, as the Opel was not a car to depend upon. some Fiesta offs were driven by fragile arms, that were made stronger afterwards per our (and others) requests.
    also Azores this year, though spectacular, crash was not caused by Alexey's mistake, but due to technical factor.

    of course, there are mistakes. Here I will support Gryazin's philosophy - you better be fast than crawl to get some points. the most disgusting feeling after the rally there you have to get to the finish to score in zero-risk mode. (BTW even here you can get a puncture or a rock that will crash half of suspension)

    Ok, the wheels can be damaged due to drivers mistake, like our ss15, but for ss8, with slow puncture... it is obviously impossible to figure out what actually happened, especially as the tire was already used one. and to call it crash sounds more of stupidity.

    so, I rather suggest you change your sofa and start to track Alexey's performance using some analytical skills.

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    PS Novikov was supported by his sponsors. it was his own decision to reject

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    What penalty (aka revision of notional time) is fair enough for puncture on the cancelled stage?One minute at least!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    It saddens me when people just come on the ERC forum when they see a crashed car to slag off the driver (in this case Gryazin), or Lukyanuk or another. Where are they when they are driving well and winning stages, beating the local guys or even the current champion ?

    And do they not enjoy their flat-out style ? Many young stars had these crashes ('Colin McCrash', and even the new hero Tanak).

    Do they prefer one of the dozen guys just driving around safely and finishing 3 minutes behind ?
    100% correct.

    Nikolay reminds me of a young Colin McRae in his style and attitude.

    ERC is not his focus this year and he has a pretty good finishing record in WRC2, where he is trying to learn the events without taking too may risks.

    Career retirement rate for NG is 22%. McRae was 34%.

    So please let's not assassinate this young guy, who is probably the most spectacular driver in the world to watch right now.

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