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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    Νeuville vs Tanak at same corners.Watch at last plan how later is Neuvilles braking

    https://youtu.be/eycSaPRb5CU
    I think it looks too close to say who is braking later. Cleary Tänak's brake lights are glowing way before he starts proper braking. Maybe it's just very touch sensitive when he is hovering foot over the brake pedal.

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    Smooth braking vs hard braking. Sometimes or even most of the times smooth is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cali View Post
    Smooth braking vs hard braking. Sometimes or even most of the times smooth is better.
    Who told you that bullshit?

    Unless you lock up your wheels and damage the tyres, or brake too late and overshoot the ideal line, braking hard is always better.

    Nobody breaks smooth, there are no advantages too it.

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    According to this article Simone Scattolin, co-driver of Fabio Andolfi, suffered triple pelvis fracture and a broken rib in the accident on SS18. It's written there that they hit a tree by the right side of the car.
    https://www.rallyeslalom.com/fabio-a...te-sulla-ps18/
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    Some statistics - comparing TOP 3 for the last 3 seasons with the current scoring system.

    You can see that in 2019 Big 3 are dominating the championship more than they have in the past 2 seasons. They have amassed 46,72% of all the available points, compared to 42,67 in 2018 and 41,47 in 2017. At the moment Tänak has gathered 17,67% of all the available points.

    Ogier in 2017 and Neuville in 2018 were leading the championship at 177 points (15,26 %) after the 10th rally of the season. Compared to those, Tänak's 205 is pretty impressive - still not close to Ogier's domination up to 2016.

    Rally stats.JPG

    So, things are promising for Tänak, but nothing is lost for Ogier and Neuville yet. Last season at the same time, Ogier was also at 3rd place

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    Quote Originally Posted by lnvs View Post
    I think it looks too close to say who is braking later. Cleary Tänak's brake lights are glowing way before he starts proper braking. Maybe it's just very touch sensitive when he is hovering foot over the brake pedal.
    As a reminder: https://www.redbull.com/gb-en/jari-m...art-of-braking
    Tänak is just feeling the grip and not stabbing the brakes

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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    Who told you that bullshit?

    Unless you lock up your wheels and damage the tyres, or brake too late and overshoot the ideal line, braking hard is always better.

    Nobody breaks smooth, there are no advantages too it.
    Having done hobby/amateur racing on track, rally and ice circuit, i would also give very slight advantage to "smooth" braking. Of course, there are many who also have some experience (many much more) and would disagree, but thats where different drivind styles, different cars and different situations come to play. Smooth braking doesnt mean that it is not hard. At the peak, pedal is probably pressed down just as much. In my opinion, smooth braking gives more control over the speed and balance of car at which it enters the turn. When braking looks like 0%-100%-0%, then it is somewhat harder to hit that exact moment when speed is optimal. Also, at hard braking suspension is compressed quite lot, when suddenly releasing (depends also on rebound settings) then change in available traction is more sudden. On track i usually brake like 0%-100%-30%-0%. On loose stuff it is anyway game of balancing on the edge of traction, so variations are different, usually nobody brakes pedal-to-the-metal unless you are facing something really scary and survival instincts take over. In gocarting, it is very clearly visible who is "hard" braking and who is smooth. Hard braking guys usually have visually very aggressive driving style, they wobble in the turns, slide around etc while smooth braking guys only slide at very sharp turns using slide to aid turning. Many years back i was such aggressive guy and despite all i tried, i got solidly beaten by very smooth schoolmate - who in later years became our national champ in track racing. Since then i also tried to be less aggressive on braking and IMHO it has helped me to be better driver.

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    We went for 3 days again. Good rally! Enjoyed our 'home' WRC Rally once again. Let's hope it won't be the last one!











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    Quote Originally Posted by Indreq View Post
    Having done hobby/amateur racing on track, rally and ice circuit, i would also give very slight advantage to "smooth" braking. Of course, there are many who also have some experience (many much more) and would disagree, but thats where different drivind styles, different cars and different situations come to play. Smooth braking doesnt mean that it is not hard. At the peak, pedal is probably pressed down just as much. In my opinion, smooth braking gives more control over the speed and balance of car at which it enters the turn. When braking looks like 0%-100%-0%, then it is somewhat harder to hit that exact moment when speed is optimal. Also, at hard braking suspension is compressed quite lot, when suddenly releasing (depends also on rebound settings) then change in available traction is more sudden. On track i usually brake like 0%-100%-30%-0%. On loose stuff it is anyway game of balancing on the edge of traction, so variations are different, usually nobody brakes pedal-to-the-metal unless you are facing something really scary and survival instincts take over. In gocarting, it is very clearly visible who is "hard" braking and who is smooth. Hard braking guys usually have visually very aggressive driving style, they wobble in the turns, slide around etc while smooth braking guys only slide at very sharp turns using slide to aid turning. Many years back i was such aggressive guy and despite all i tried, i got solidly beaten by very smooth schoolmate - who in later years became our national champ in track racing. Since then i also tried to be less aggressive on braking and IMHO it has helped me to be better driver.
    Thanks mate! That's exactly what I was referring to but we have here some boneheaded internet warriors who clearly are very good at starting a spitting contest. So I must warn you - they're coming after you for speaking out!

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