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    Quote Originally Posted by KKS View Post
    Estonia, as Latvia, it's a country with a thousands roads for special stages. If organizers want - they can use roads a bit far from service what ever configuration you want. Yep it still be fast, but not that blind fast as SS14. It's not as they have one stage and must deal with it.
    Finland is a country with many more roads for special stages, yet average speeds and dealing with them has been a topic for quite a while. (first splitting stages, then chicanes and last moving to narrower roads).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    As I wrote before if Estonia aims to be a WRC rally at some point these kind of avg. speeds will never go past FIA.

    Can something be done with the stages that does not involve chicanes?
    They can/could move some of the stages to Vűru region which actually has better roads than these roads near Otepšš. More bends, twistier etc.
    But the thing which surprised me the most was to see how many roads are being paved in that region. If it goes on more like this than we don't have many (great) gravel stages left anymore. We were recceing the stages on Friday and were using many very-very nice an legendary stages which were now paved to get to the current rally stages. From the locals point of view this is nice - no more dusty and uncomfortable raod conditions any more, but on the other we are losing unbelievably nice stages year by year

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Finland is a country with many more roads for special stages, yet average speeds and dealing with them has been a topic for quite a while. (first splitting stages, then chicanes and last moving to narrower roads).
    In a way Rally Finland's heritage is a burden. Certain stages are very popular. Taking the rally out of those classic roads might reduce the popularity. Estonia doesn't have this yet. But the natural geography makes up faster stages because the land is flatter and the roads are straighter. Also, I haven't examined the maps closely to see how dense the road network is for creating alternate routes like in many Rally Finland stages.

    When they build those artificial jumps in Estonia, do they leave them for the remainder of the year or are they built and torn down every year separately?

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    Yes, they leave them as they were.

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    KKSF HD video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONlIXLrVNis
    with huge jumps, crash and close calls

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    @EstWRC
    any news,rumors from the works teams/drivers at Estonia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
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    any news,rumors from the works teams/drivers at Estonia?
    didnt hear anything on the stages from other people or in the media

    teams reportedly very satisfied with things, everyone praised the stages and also that so many people were present no matter what the weather was. Suninen said on Saturday: "We have more people here than on some WRC rounds and i think this should be a WRC round"

    It was great event, smile on my face all the time, im still recovering from it and cant quite believe we had it. The amount of people was just unbelievable.

    We were on SS1 and SS3 saturday, like expected the TOP guys were on another planet, Markko was very careful on the first pass, on second pass was faster and took the little jump and left hand corner like the TOP guys but it went a little "wrong" and he had to correct. Gross nearly went into the trees at the same place on second pass. Originally we had planned to go on SS5 but when we saw the traffic we cancelled it and went to SS6 instead, which was sooooooo right choice. Very fast right hander and then flat out up the mountain. Amazing how late the guys did brake before the corner, when Ott came first i thought he is going straight, the speed was so incredible and then the late braking and this sudden "flick" to the right with the car. Amazing to watch and the drivers arent just normal. To control these beasts with such a speed.

    On Sunday we were both passes on SS11 on the Veski jump, which is right in the beginning of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2QhTyyiQnE. Not so much a special place but since we had some first timers with us who wanted to see a jump the decision was made.

    Gryazin was the most impressive driver to watch, the dude isnt afraid of anything, flat out everywhere and biggest jumps. Also credit to the zero car guy with the Dakar Toyota Hilux, he was crazy too . One example is here https://youtu.be/k2QhTyyiQnE?t=453. Out of of the WRC drivers, Lappi and the Citroen were the most nervous, correcting the car all the time. Mikkelsen for me was surprisingly neat and tidy for his standards, at least he wasnt so much all over the place like i usually see him on WRC plus on other rounds. And you could where Ott gains time against the others, braking later and not lifting or braking on places where others did and just carrying more speed overall.

    Cant wait for next year already, luckily theres only two weeks left until Finland
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