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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    Gil Antunes Dacia will take a while to debut but it’s already looking nice
    GIL ANTUNES is going to drive Rally Vinho da Madeira with DACIA SANDERO R4 this weekend (no. 14 on the entry list). This event is a round of Portuguese and Madeiran rally championships as well as European Rally Trophy and Iberian Rally Trophy.

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    Yep, he already drove it at Rali Castelo Branco; he reported some engine issues, struggling to match the fastest 2wd cars.
    Rally addict since 1982

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    Antunes' final result was far from spectacular. He finished the rally in the 19th position, behind some R3 cars:
    https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/6...-madeira-2020/
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    Saw some footage from Madeira and have to agree the car didnt look or sound that impressive. Seems a lot of effort and expense to go to just to finish behind R3 cars.

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    I like the Suzuki Swift, and hope the spanish team can get approval by Suzuki to start a Rally3 project.

    Now painted in the colors of the Moto GP bike that just became world champions with Mr Mir.

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    Judging by the performance of works R4 in Canarias I call these cars to be a lost case.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Victor Cartier shows his Toyota Yaris R4 kit



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Judging by the performance of works R4 in Canarias I call these cars to be a lost case.
    And that is a bit strange, based on tech data:
    ENGINE1.6 Turbo / 263 HP / 382 Nm
    TRANSMISSION4WDGEARBOXSadev 5 speed sequential
    SUSPENSIONCustom build Nadaltech suspension
    WEIGHT1230 KG

    It is not that far off the R5s in engine.
    But have we seen a top notch driver driving one of these in a full rally?
    Is the Nadaltech suspension any good, cant remember that name?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    And that is a bit strange, based on tech data:
    ENGINE1.6 Turbo / 263 HP / 382 Nm
    TRANSMISSION4WDGEARBOXSadev 5 speed sequential
    SUSPENSIONCustom build Nadaltech suspension
    WEIGHT1230 KG

    It is not that far off the R5s in engine.
    But have we seen a top notch driver driving one of these in a full rally?
    Is the Nadaltech suspension any good, cant remember that name?
    Both drivers for Suzuki Spain are really fast and really good. The car is just overpowered, specially in torque. A 208 Rally4 makes more Nm with less power than a R4.

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    The R4 engine is basically a stock one. It's not only about numbers which are way lower than with R5 anyway but also about the curves, anti-lag etc. Also the engine is only one part of the whole picture. The thing is that R4 are way too expensive for what they are. They have been around for quite a long time but they didn't attract anyone but few people while the more expensive but much faster R5 sell in hundreds.

    It can not be said that such fail could not be forseen since we can find more than enough such voices in this forum alone if we go in the history.
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