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    #8 Ott Tänak - Martin Järveoja #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    I don't wanna be in Latvala & Meeke's place reading this.
    nobody wants to.
    they are lucky that no other better drivers are available, because i think both their seat could be in serious danger.

    i wonder what the toyota bosses think of makinen's choise of drivers.

    Quote Originally Posted by tommeke_B View Post
    Watching the times of last Tour de Corse, I don't think I'm underestimating it's pace. 2017 is a while ago, the cars have evolved a lot since then. But remember, last year, Ogier won 4 events (and was 2 times extremely close to the win), Tänak won 4, Neuville won 3 (of which one less than a second in front of Ogier). Saying Ogier didn't win by speed is complete nonsense.

    If the Toyota had the speed without pushing hard, as you claim, why is Tänak the only one who ended up on the podium with it this year? Meeke and Latvala don't have a reputation of being slow drivers.

    Let's talk about the speed of the Fiesta again, after Finland and Germany.
    meeke and latvala both have the same problem. they can't go fast without crashing into things. they can go 100%, win sometimes but crash mostly. or they can go 90% and be far of the pace. neither of them have the ability to drive at 95% and be fast without crashing like ogier.

    perhaps that fiesta really is as fast as you claim. it could be, but i doubt it.

    eib1 has posted the number of stage wins here, i've included the top 3 which makes the dominant speed of the toyota even more clear. all 3 of toyota drivers are at the top. even latvala and meeke outscore neuville and ogier.
    Tanak - 45
    Meeke - 35
    Latvala - 22
    Neuville - 22
    Ogier - 19
    Evans - 17
    Sordo - 14
    Mikkelsen - 14
    Loeb - 13
    Suninen - 12
    Lappi - 11

    Toyota - 102
    Hyundai - 63
    Ford - 29
    Citroen - 30
    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmop View Post
    denkimi is just humiliating once again...
    you know, its possible just not to reply if you have nothing intelligent to say.

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    You add the top3 with their stage wins and keep the same amount of stage wins for others ?
    #8 Ott Tänak - Martin Järveoja #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    nobody wants to.
    they are lucky that no other better drivers are available, because i think both their seat could be in serious danger.

    i wonder what the toyota bosses think of makinen's choise of drivers.


    meeke and latvala both have the same problem. they can't go fast without crashing into things. they can go 100%, win sometimes but crash mostly. or they can go 90% and be far of the pace. neither of them have the ability to drive at 95% and be fast without crashing like ogier.

    perhaps that fiesta really is as fast as you claim. it could be, but i doubt it.

    eib1 has posted the number of stage wins here, i've included the top 3 which makes the dominant speed of the toyota even more clear. all 3 of toyota drivers are at the top. even latvala and meeke outscore neuville and ogier.



    you know, its possible just not to reply if you have nothing intelligent to say.
    Ogeir 'crashed' 3 times this rally... more that Meeke all season. No?

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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    eib1 has posted the number of stage wins here, i've included the top 3 which makes the dominant speed of the toyota even more clear. all 3 of toyota drivers are at the top. even latvala and meeke outscore neuville and ogier.
    You have 86 more stages than what was actually run in the season, in other words what You made is BS...
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
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    A message to @OttTanak and @MartinJarveoja - keep your heads held high! Your pace was simply sensational this weekend #WRC #MSPORTERS #SportCanBeCruel
    This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    nobody wants to.
    they are lucky that no other better drivers are available, because i think both their seat could be in serious danger.

    i wonder what the toyota bosses think of makinen's choise of drivers.


    meeke and latvala both have the same problem. they can't go fast without crashing into things. they can go 100%, win sometimes but crash mostly. or they can go 90% and be far of the pace. neither of them have the ability to drive at 95% and be fast without crashing like ogier.

    perhaps that fiesta really is as fast as you claim. it could be, but i doubt it.

    eib1 has posted the number of stage wins here, i've included the top 3 which makes the dominant speed of the toyota even more clear. all 3 of toyota drivers are at the top. even latvala and meeke outscore neuville and ogier.



    you know, its possible just not to reply if you have nothing intelligent to say.
    There is nothing to reply to this jibberish...Ford being what it was in 2017 (though they have improved their aero, changed suspension and done work to the engine) and Toyota drives itself (again though, with only one driver).

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    Here are real stats of SS winners.

    https://i.postimg.cc/W3Jf827p/sss.png
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    Tanak:
    Thank you @MSportLtd for this message ! We still have 6 more rallies to go and we will fight for these 6 victories really hard ! 😎💪

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    #8 Ott Tänak - Martin Järveoja #8
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