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    I'm not going to even bother with your post.

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    Anyway, doing the maths. Bottas is on track to score 387pts this season, 382 without the projected 5FL.

    382 would've been enough to miss out on the 14 c'ship by 2, win 15 by 1, miss out in 16 by 3, win 17 by 19, and lose 18 by 26. The WC's average since MB have had the best car since 14 has been 384.2. Bottas is in line to beat that, but it still might not be enough. So to say he has to up his game is moot.

    It's not like he can magically become a second quicker than Hamilton and overrun him. It's not like he can wave a wand in Austria, and make his tyres fresher and car cooler. Walk past Verstappen and Leclerc and put 15pts between him and Hamilton. It's not like there's going to be a wildcard race, where the winner is going to get 50 bonus points. Bottas wins and Hamilton dnfs.

    Even if now the Ferrari's and RB get their share of wins, and Hamilton doesn't win a race for the rest of the season. Let's says he averages 4th? That's 144pts and 341 for the season, 344 throwing in a few FL. That's not going to be easy for Bottas to overcome even with his current form line. If he does, it's realistically going be til the second last race before he does.

    To say he has to up his game is kind of pointless as he's already going at almost full capacity. It's like going up to Yohan Blake and Tyson Gay, who are the second fastest men in history with 9.69 in the 100m. The saying Usain Bolt's fastest time is 9.59, you're going to have to up your game. It's not really taking into account all factors that contribute to the results.

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    Hopefully Starter is taking a rest from lurking on here, as he may get a bit upset.

    But in the Austrian GP thread, he made a quote that caught my eye regarding the possible consequences of the Verstappen cheap shot on Leclerc...

    Max could be kicking himself as Bottas took an undeserved win from him
    Now, I don't notice Starter's post to know if he's particularly critical or dismissive of Bottas. But it's those kind of moments that can subtly affect who wins the championship.

    Let's just say Verstappen/Leclerc got into sufficiently hard clash to allow Bottas to win? That would've been an extra 10pts Bottas would've got towards the championship on Hamilton for pretty much doing nothing.

    Somehow you have to make those random moments work for you. Bottas hasn't, as Hamilton is +14pts on him from the season so far due to other's adversity/errors.

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    As opposed to just being the leading MB in 17. Bottas' haul of 182pts so far would be leading the last 3 seasons at this point. 20 behind Hamilton in 15 and 8pts behind Rosberg in 14.

    You can sit there and pick holes in whatever he's doing relative to Hamilton this year. But it typically isn't as costly as it normally would be during the course of a season.

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    Bottas has to understand one thing if he wants to win the championship. That is that he doesn't have Juju. If he had Juju, then he can do whatever he likes and he'll win the championship. Hamilton, Verstappen, Schumacher, Rossi have/had Juju. Bottas doesn't.

    He has to avoid making errors like he did last night and just take what he can get. It doesn't matter if he couldn't pass Stroll, or if Vettel got him then everyone think he's a dickhead. Being conservative (and Juju) in the best cars wins championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by journeyman racer View Post
    Bottas has to understand one thing if he wants to win the championship. That is that he doesn't have Juju. If he had Juju, then he can do whatever he likes and he'll win the championship. Hamilton, Verstappen, Schumacher, Rossi have/had Juju. Bottas doesn't.

    He has to avoid making errors like he did last night and just take what he can get. It doesn't matter if he couldn't pass Stroll, or if Vettel got him then everyone think he's a dickhead. Being conservative (and Juju) in the best cars wins championship.
    What is Juju?
    Better a witty fool than a foolish wit.
    William Shakespeare

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    I have to acknowledge that after being annoyed at Nitrodaze's expressions over Hamilton's last lap at Silverstone, I have brought in a word that is comparable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrodaze View Post
    What is Juju?
    juju
    [ˈdʒuːdʒuː]

    noun

    -supernatural power attributed to a charm...

    Think about it? Both effectively made the same error at the first turn. Hamilton spins off an resumes as if nothing happened, and Bottas destroys the front of his car.

    How does that happen???

    It's Juju. Bottas doesn't have it. It's why nobody likes him, or cares if he suffers some misfortune.

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    So much for Bottas v2.0. Surely he has to be dropped now. 62 points behind Lewis after 12 races. 2 mistakes on the first lap, nearly taking his teammate out of it in turn 3. Canít see why Mercedes would keep him except to play second fiddle to Hamilton.

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    How about you just stfu?

    A lame arse like you just couldn't wait to lay the boots into him, you *****.

    Nearly taking out his team mate? You just exaggerate any danger towards Hamilton because you're a loser that lives vicariously through Hamilton.

    Why would MB keep him? Well, if they do replace him, you'll see why they would because aside from Ricciardo, there's no one who could you could say could really do better. That's why.

    Another reason is because he outqualifies Hamilton regularly. Again, aside from Ricciardo, there's no one likely to be available to do that.

    ******* pathetic lame arse fans Hamilton has.
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    Quote Originally Posted by journeyman racer View Post
    How about you just stfu?
    You're an angry little dude aren't you?



    If someone having an opinion upsets you that much, there is an ignore function. And guess what happens on the internet... people have opinions.




    I think Bottas has overall upped his game, but IMO the young guns and people around him have done the same. It doesn't leave him on solid ground at the moment.

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