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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    I dont remember any big controversy in Sweden 2019. Ogier said he just wanted a better road position to use the remainder of the rally as a test for his new car.
    But the point is that Ogier invented this kind of tactics, which Hyundai now used to greater extent. He was able to help Lappi as well in getting second position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubled1978 View Post
    Didn’t Meeke also have Damper problems that were found out later? I think I read that somewhere...
    And handbrake stopped working

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    List of issues and incidents

    Tänak: Brake issues, broken damper, one slide to the side of the road
    Neuville: One stall of engine
    Ogier: -
    Suninen: Brake issues
    Evans: Electrical fault - stopped in the stage
    Latvala: Broken damper - rally 2
    Sordo: Fuel pressure issue - stopped in the stage
    Loeb: Fuel pressure issue - stopped in the stage, damaged suspension - retired
    Greensmith: Engine issues, off road - rally2, broken suspension and crash - retired
    Meeke: Intercom issues, handbrake issues, damper problems, spin, hit a stone - retired
    Lappi: Puncture, rolled, damaged suspension - retired

    In 2018 and 2017 it was as eventful. Maybe it's the combination of heat, roughness and speed of this event that makes it so difficult to get to the finish without issues?
    Neuville had broken radiator a the end of SS13. Sordo had puncture on SS5
    SS 12 and 13 were real car destroyers, really big exposed bedrocks, concrete edges on line, metal settling wells (20-30 cm high in the ruts). If you look further back in the list, you can see many-many problems..
    Last edited by bluuford; 3rd June 2019 at 13:57.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    List of issues and incidents

    Tänak: Brake issues, broken damper, one slide to the side of the road
    Does anyone really believe that tanak had a broken damper?
    When you take into account the time he lost with his off, he was just as fast as the previous passage compared to ogier and neuville. You don't do that with a broken damper.
    Latvala had a real broken damper, tanak was playing games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    Does anyone really believe that tanak had a broken damper?
    When you take into account the time he lost with his off, he was just as fast as the previous passage compared to ogier and neuville. You don't do that with a broken damper.
    Latvala had a real broken damper, tanak was playing games.
    ...did you see the helicopter videos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    As far as i understand, they wanted sordo to pull over and start again right after neuville. So neuville wouldn't be in sordo's dust, but meeke would have had a little bit more dust.

    They could easily solve that by always giving 3 or 4 minute gaps on rally's with a lot of dust.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    Only saw the video and read the comments a few minutes ago but it seems it would give Thierry the 4m gap from the place where Sordo was stopped (the closest possible to the start). Btw, this tactic was used by Lancia in the 80's.
    Thank you! Now it's clear to me too.
    Well, we have no proof whether it's true or not.
    If true it starts to be too much but Ogier is still the last person that should complain about it but we need to put a line to define what is a team strategy and what is against the sport principles.
    If false or partially false then some people should think twice before spreading such accusations in public. They're not good for anyone.

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    why the hell he should he lie about this? didnt you follow ALLLIVE? you could see the front right tyre wobblying like crazy.

    and after he came to media zone, the mechanics right away went to check the car and one of them was shaking his head.
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    Yes I think Tanak mentioned that he thought the damper had taken a big hit in the first stage in the loop, and it looks like it finally gave up around half way more or less through the third in the loop.
    I don’t think it had much to do with his off, but you could see the last few Km’s it was totally gone.
    He was a bit lucky with the off tho...easily could have got stuck or hit something solid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    why the hell he should he lie about this? didnt you follow ALLLIVE? you could see the front right tyre wobblying like crazy.

    and after he came to media zone, the mechanics right away went to check the car and one of them was shaking his head.
    No i don't have alllive.

    Whatever it was, it hasn't slowed him down. Not even a little.
    And i think everybody here has seen enough rally to know that a real broken damper does slow you down. Massively.

    Why would they tell the truth? Mind games have always been a part of the show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    List of issues and incidents

    Tänak: Brake issues, broken damper, one slide to the side of the road
    Neuville: One stall of engine
    Ogier: -
    Suninen: Brake issues
    Evans: Electrical fault - stopped in the stage
    Latvala: Broken damper - rally 2
    Sordo: Fuel pressure issue - stopped in the stage
    Loeb: Fuel pressure issue - stopped in the stage, damaged suspension - retired
    Greensmith: Engine issues, off road - rally2, broken suspension and crash - retired
    Meeke: Intercom issues, handbrake issues, damper problems, spin, hit a stone - retired
    Lappi: Puncture, rolled, damaged suspension - retired
    For Latvala reason for Rally2 was broken suspension, damper took hit in jump but after that he hit a stone and broke suspension. That´s what TGR said afterwards.

    Good that AnttiL noticed that Loeb eventually retired.
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