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    i don’t get it why they cancelled it anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    These calculated times are always about "what if". Personally I think that it's better to avoid and if possible give drivers, who are in direct fight, same notional time. The situation when it's needed is very rare and while we can say that it's unfair for the one who already finished and could have won some time we can say the same about calculated time loss for the other. You simply can not know what would have happened in the rest of the stage. That's why I think it's better to avoid any such calculation (generally speaking - of course in this particular case when we know that Ogier had a puncture it's impossible that he could have taken some time back).
    They cant give him a better time than the last split though surely? He wouldn't have taken time back on Meeke with a puncture so at the very, very least he should lose 18.4s. Ogier would be delighted with that

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    Also... where was the Tanak/Neuville charge up the leaderboard? Seems Meeke and Evans may have something to say about that.

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    As I said this will be an interesting coc decision , oh to be a fly on the wall...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morte66 View Post
    Also... where was the Tanak/Neuville charge up the leaderboard? Seems Meeke and Evans may have something to say about that.
    It was just one stage and mikkelsen said the cleaning is even worse today.

    And i would say it’s tanaks least favorite gravel rally
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    #8 Ott Tänak - Martin Järveoja #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by er88 View Post
    Was a great time and from nowhere really, he's been very solid all weekend up to this point but not showing the top speed.

    Possible he could've been overdriving or pushing extra hard though, which ofcourse comes with risks. He didn't say too much at the stage end
    Nearly a second per km faster than Tanak in the same car and only slightly better road position is unbelievable.
    #M-SPORTER

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    Seems to be enough room for others to get passed that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    They cant know for sure the exact point of Ogier's puncture so it cant be taken into account. Giving identical notional times of those involved are usual in such cases.
    I think that is for the best in the long term. It's the same rules for everybody, and what goes around comes around.

    If they do some complex calculation somebody will complain that it was wrong maths, or accuse the COC of bias, or whatever.

    Just so long as they always do the same thing, so it is the same rules for everybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLuto View Post
    If I will be giving notional times, I should give time of Meeke to Ogier. And for Latvala time of Sordo, same like for the rest of the field.
    Then you'd be an idiot with the information available, no offence

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