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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Pluto spent years doing logistics for several teams so I guess he has an idea.
    True but PLuto works for ERC.
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    If Huttunen is driving with Printsport in Sweden, I guess we can put a fork in Hyundai's works R5 programme? They've been conspicuously quiet about it since the end of last year.
    aka Rodger Davies

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    They just need to put Paddon in first car and maybe Breen in second, since Ostberg is linked to Citroen and Skoda. (VW).

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    Quote Originally Posted by deephouse View Post
    WRC teams don't look for guys over there but mostly wrc2 and jwrc and that is also hard because the field is already pretty occupied with fast and proven drivers.
    This is completely not true. Managers of the teams are not stupid and they are closely following lot of championships including national ones. And they are not following only results, but also performance, behaviour, brain... To impress managers, it is not so important to do WRC2 or JWRC, especially if you are not ready enough for it. There is plenty of drivers which were in focus on the managers in their performance and their big step to WRC events, when they were not ready enough for it, made their situation in the eyes of managers much worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pantealex View Post
    True but PLuto works for ERC.
    Come on. I was in JWRC in its golden era around 2005 / 2006, once I was as team manager also for Latvala in that time, I was in some WRC events with Bouffier and of course I am in contact with lot of drivers, so at least I have some "inside" informations...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLuto View Post
    This is completely not true. Managers of the teams are not stupid and they are closely following lot of championships including national ones. And they are not following only results, but also performance, behaviour, brain... To impress managers, it is not so important to do WRC2 or JWRC, especially if you are not ready enough for it. There is plenty of drivers which were in focus on the managers in their performance and their big step to WRC events, when they were not ready enough for it, made their situation in the eyes of managers much worse.
    Now tell me, when was last time that some WRC team pull some guy from national over WRC support series?? It will be even harder when old guys are coming back and some of the established needs to stay at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLuto View Post
    Come on. I was in JWRC in its golden era around 2005 / 2006, once I was as team manager also for Latvala in that time, I was in some WRC events with Bouffier and of course I am in contact with lot of drivers, so at least I have some "inside" informations...
    Curious, how did your career get to that point? How did you become team manager?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deephouse View Post
    Now tell me, when was last time that some WRC team pull some guy from national over WRC support series?? It will be even harder when old guys are coming back and some of the established needs to stay at home.
    Large part of the current WRC drivers came from IRC which at that time wasn't even an FIA championship.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Large part of the current WRC drivers came from IRC which at that time wasn't even an FIA championship.
    WRC2 and WRC3 was established after IRC last year running (2012). Of course they came from there. It was like next big series after WRC.

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    PWRC was the equivalent of the WRC2 and an official support championship to the WRC while the IRC was a private venture of Eurosport. Same machinery was used in both (a mix of S2000, gr.N and R4 cars).

    It sitll works to some extend but moved to a lower level - the works teams take quite a lot of drivers from ERC, especially junior drivers and put them into their R5 cars to see their potential in WRC2 - rather than taking guys from JWRC. In fact it's all about the competitive level - European U27 and U28 have had higher competitive level than JWRC just like in its time IRC had higher competitive level than PWRC.

    If one day some guy comes into ERC and beats Lukyanuk on all eight events you can be sure he will go into some WRC team at least for a test.
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