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    Quote Originally Posted by Esko View Post
    I wonder how long does Citroën listen how poor car Citroën C3 R5 is according Mads
    Whinging in public is not great promotion for a customer car.

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    Opinions of 30 year olds that daddy pays for them to have a job at that age are relevant only to stupid people...

    who cares what Mads thinks anymore ? honestly why care ? he is a terrible mediocrity...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    However Mads did well in WRC car in Finland. How much was his experience used back then, before the rally?
    Yes, it was he that finally got the changes to the front geometry that it needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Esko View Post
    I wonder how long does Citroën listen how poor car Citroën C3 R5 is according Mads
    When you're paying for your drive you can complain all you like....

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    Well, then you can be charged more or told to go and get a better deal for himself.
    A WRC driver with longtime experience representing company car in company colours is something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rallyfiend View Post
    When you're paying for your drive you can complain all you like....
    He is not paying to drive the R5.

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    Things might look weird, but if you have a car you know for yourself isn´t on the level of your combatants, it´s better to say the car is under development. You know messages turn around, if you know what I mean...?
    "Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
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    Quote Originally Posted by skarderud View Post
    He is not paying to drive the R5.
    I find that hard to believe as the car is well covered with PMI logos. PMI is a company fully owned by Dad Østberg, with a board solely filled with Østbergs.
    They dont get that for free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skarderud View Post
    He is not paying to drive the R5.
    You suggest that he is a customer who not only complains all the time, but also doesn't pay?
    Last edited by Jarek Z; 22nd February 2019 at 14:01.
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    If you look at the videos from Sweden, the C3 has much less suspension travel than the other R5s. Looks almost like a gr A car from the 90s! ;-)

    So there is something there, that in normal Citroen Sport mindset, it is made as a good asphalt car. And there it is competitive, but the parts needed for getting a good and flexible gravelcar are not yet made. Mads tried all parts Citroen Sport had for it, but it was still too stiff.

    So that is step 1 for him, to get parts to make a softer car, to get better traction, and a wider window that drivers can play with for their driving style.
    If diff settings are possible to tweek for this softer set-up, I think is phase two.

    Mads is given the job to improve the C3 on gravel/snow, and only he and Citroen knows the finacial details in the deal.

    Most Norwegian are very straight forward, and speak their mind, when asked a question, this also goes for rally drivers. But this goes both ways, so he will give the C3 top noth comments when it deserves that.

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