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    Quote Originally Posted by T16 View Post
    Am I right in thinking it starts at about 20:10 UK time tonight. Cheers.
    it starts in about 30 minutes

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    Quote Originally Posted by eib1 View Post
    @Michelin_Sport

    Cloudy no rain expected this morning.
    Damn...

    Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G935F met Tapatalk

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    Quote Originally Posted by able1 View Post
    well toyoda san can hire couple of ninjas to whack them both ... nothing in fia rules prohibits it There are unwritten rules in any Team sport , team tactics is part of it.
    You don't seem to know anything about Japanese culture, do You?
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve.mandzij View Post
    Team orders are entirely legal and don't directly impact or sabotage another driver's chances at anything like placing a rock on a crest or purposely hiring cars to crash into other competitors would.

    I can't believe what you're saying.
    we talk about cheats, but not about breaking a law. All M-Sport movement not broke any rule now or even in Sweden. But all this stuff is a shame.

    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    You've gone too far. What You're talking about equals to a crime. Just that other teams don't make it public You think they don't apply team orders? Delaying a car in the service, ordering a driver not to be faster than his teammate, that's what teams has been always used.
    Yes, to show other extreme value.

    Can you give me an example of modern era when other team do orders which hurts team-mates?

    I say only that price for such a championship title is worthless, when everything was done for you by a team. Can you give it by yourself? - nope. A team giving you a prize. So it's not you a champion, it's a people of a team make you champion.

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    Latvala & Tδnak & Lappi: 2 H4 + 3 M6

    Ogier & Evans & Suninen: 4 M6 + 1 H4

    Neuville: 5 M6

    Paddon: 3 H4 + 2M6

    Mikkelsen: 3 M6 + 2 H4

    Breen: 5 M6

    Ostberg: 3 M6 + 2H4
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    Drivers championship is always trophy of whole team, not driver alone codrives himself, coordinates, designs the car, engineers it, runs it, changes gboxes, tires, etc and finally not him alone pays for it...
    In some series (like australian V8 Supercars) there are even rules describing what is alowed and what not on team orders, it's normal part of the game

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    Quote Originally Posted by KKS View Post
    All M-Sport movement not broke any rule now or even in Sweden.
    That is not true. They clearly broke rules in Sweden and got penalized for it. It's just that the rule+penalty system wasn't changed after Power Stage points were added, so the penalty to total time didn't hurt them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    You don't seem to know anything about Japanese culture, do You?
    My infinite insight into japanese culture comes from 100 percent accurate blockbuster and timeless classic " Last Samurai" .

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    stop this BS already

    we have a amazing day ahead
    #8 Ott Tδnak - Martin Jδrveoja #8
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    AT 06:44 - DRAMA ALREADY
    On that note, we've had drama already. Ott Tδnak suffered a hydraulic failure as he started to leave the service park. The team pushed him back into the Toyota service area, changed hydraulic parts and he's underway now

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