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    #Tyre info - SS17 & SS18

    Hyundai/MSport/Latvala/Breen: 4 MICHELIN LTX Force H5 +1S6
    Loeb/Tanak: 5H5
    Lappi: 3H5+2S6
    Al Qassimi: 4S6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    I would be very very careful about such statements. In fact I would not comment that at all without being an insider. This is easy to say but things can be very easily very different than what is presented on public.
    I just want to share my thought as a rally fan. It's pure speculation and no offense to anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianjai View Post
    The team management is one of the factor to blame for their terrible performance. However, it seems like everybody forget how bad a developmental driver Meeke is. He had developing and fine-tuning the C3 for a whole year and he even said he feel comfortable with the car before the 2017 championship started. Yet, he can only bring some great driving occasionally (Mexico,Corsica and Catalunya)
    Totally disagree about Meeke being a bad driver. Citroen and Loeb have, numerous times, in the past credited hum with setting cars up/ feedback in testing. He got particular praise for the C4 and his engineering degree and employment in M-sport are said to benefit him in this respect. I can't believe he can go from being held insect regard to crap.
    for me, the C3 just looks to heavy at the rear... swinging around all over the place on gravel, whereas the Toyota looks much lighter and therefore, better balanced in comparison.

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    Tanak 6 sec faster from his first pass
    Lappi 8 sec faster

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    Come on Neuville, mix it up with Ogier

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    the first split is not always right, already on first pass some drivers have 2-3 seconds faster first splits than possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    I would be very very careful about such statements. In fact I would not comment that at all without being an insider. This is easy to say but things can be very easily very different than what is presented on public.
    However, what we as fans can see is the outcome of the management, no matter how it is done and the reasons behind.
    "Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
    Tommi Mäkinen, back in the years...

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    Quote Originally Posted by T16 View Post
    Totally disagree about Meeke being a bad driver. Citroen and Loeb have, numerous times, in the past credited hum with setting cars up/ feedback in testing. He got particular praise for the C4 and his engineering degree and employment in M-sport are said to benefit him in this respect. I can't believe he can go from being held insect regard to crap.
    for me, the C3 just looks to heavy at the rear... swinging around all over the place on gravel, whereas the Toyota looks much lighter and therefore, better balanced in comparison.
    As discussed before, the cars Meeke was the development driver for have all suffered from similar problems: good on tarmac, but very oversteering on gravel (C3, 208/DS3 R5, Mini), bad bump stop management, etc. Obviously none of these are his faults only, but it is a very interesting trend.

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    Neuville's going to bin it here.

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    Interesting how fast Sordo is now... What's his aim?

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