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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli View Post
    Probably Ogier will take it, and I bet he's happy to see that C3's potential ahead of next season.
    Probably yes, probably not .......

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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    its not a double standard, its the difference

    has Tänak made any stupid driving errors this year like Neuville did last year ?

    NO...that is the biggest difference.
    It is double standard and you are certainly not qualified to tell the difference

    Tanak this year mistakes:
    Sweden
    Sardinia

    Borderline:
    GB (lower setup than anyone else, 42s lead)
    Spain (33s lead and big cut)
    Last edited by mknight; 28th October 2018 at 14:02.

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    lol. Who are you to say who is qualified or not? What mistake in Sardinia?
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    Loeb was and is a fantastic driver, not only in rally, but also in racing.

    if he needs another challenge, the logical step be endurance racing. But would be cool to see him in formula 2, to se if he mastered single seaters as well.

    But I think he feels he still has something to prove in Rally Cross. But driving rally cross, he can not use the tactician Loeb, the starts are too important.

    Winning in WRC from 2002 till 2018 is extreem. And this year in a car that no-one seems to master has to be embarrasing to the drivers in Citroen!
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    I would like tanak to win it... it does not matter for me if Ogier or Neuville win it... i dislike them the same for different reasons...

    plus this years championship is garbage when a semi retired white hair old dude returns in a shit car that has not won the whole year and ridicules you like some dog waiting on death row in some chinese restaurant...
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    Toyota 331
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    Should be the first time in ages 3 manufacturers have a title chance at the final event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    lol. Who are you to say who is qualified or not? What mistake in Sardinia?
    It's not very hard to see you are a big Tanak fan is it *points at the icon + country*, even without reading a single post of yours.

    Ruining the radiator when you are the only one out of top 5 that didn't lift or break on a jump is mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    its not a double standard, its the difference

    has Tänak made any stupid driving errors this year like Neuville did last year ?

    NO...that is the biggest difference.

    Shut up please, and tell your guy to learn how to jump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    Its normal when you have to choose between a champion and a tv presenters lap dog...

    Neuville needs 2nd or a win in Oz and he wins the championship no matter what... if he finishes lower then Ogier controls the fate.
    I take it maths isn’t your forté - Neuville wins Australia but no PS = 25 Ogier second with max PS = 23 so would be WDC by 1 point. Not only does Neuville have to finish ahead of Ogier he must have enough tyre left to outscore Ogier in the PS - lotsa luck with that
    Kris Meeke got fired -PSG so terrified they quit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Tanak this year is in many ways similar to Neuville last year. Fastest but also trying just a bit too much resulting in small things that in the end cost a lot of points.

    This year Neuville "relaxed" in a good way and is not making unnecessary mistakes, the only ones are GB and Finland. Sometimes the pace just isn't there from the car (Corsica, GER, FIN). He is on completely different level mentality-wise than last year. Ogier has POR, GER, TUR mistakes.
    Which is why I think they have about same chance going to AUS (due to start position).

    What I don't like is the double-standards in relation to Tanak. Last year everyone agreed it was Neuville's own fault he didn't win the title.
    This year Tanak is always "unlucky". Sure sometimes he is, but looking at the bigger picture over multiple rallies it's not without reason.

    If you try to look at it without fan- or anti-fan glasses there is little difference between Neuville in 2017 and Tanak in 2018. Just that one is more popular among fans than the other. I don't really have a preference as a fan, but as usual I feel the need to balance the one-way comments.
    I agree. Both Neuville and Tanak are suffered by weakness of the car (fragile tarmac suspension in Hyundai and fragile under protection of Toyota)
    However, as a Tanak fan, Tanak is way faster this year (setting top 3 times on every rallies this year) than Neuville last year (failed to capitalize Ogier's retirement in Finland) and Neuville has a obvious driving error by crashing in Sweden's SSS and timing error by checking late on the stage in GB which costs him the title, while Tanak's error is mostly not his fault (Catalunya, Sardinia and GB are the more debatable one). I think Tanak deserves more than Neuville, but they are both unlucky

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