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    He had Red Bull, Ford Performance and maybe other help, still he said, that they are doing this with his personal savings so no, definitely he can`t afford paying a rookie big salary for learning (no constant good results, broken cars). Especially with a car capable of winning 3 titles.
    Last edited by Tarmop; 25th November 2018 at 09:03.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deephouse View Post
    Still Ogier is payed a way more than any other driver out there. And if Malcolm hire Suninen, Evans and maybe Breen they all three combined will not cost that much like Ogier himself. What motivation is that if they need to pay for a drive. Like you would pay for company that you could work there and not receive anything. Just silly. For me that's a cheap thinking, nothing else.
    its all about demand and supply. there are few works seats, and lots of people who want one. if ford doesn't want to pay to try and win a title, malcolm has no interest in it either.

    it's not like working at a company, it's like having a very expensive hobby.

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    I'm saying that he could at least pay them (I will make this numbers because don't know reality) Wilson could afford that, no excuse. 10.000-20.000 or more. Seb I believe have 2-3 millions and that is a huge amount per year. Still the drivers need to live. Travels isn't for free, accomodation too, food, clothes, family... If they are in the world level of racing they have not the time to work at the regular jobs.. So that's why I say it's silly. Still Wilson sell promising drivers and make more money that he invest into them.

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    At the MS-RT Supporters Club at the M-Sport Hospitality we were given a very detailed talk about the cars and also the logistics.

    The costs of transport of the cars and all the trucks with fuel, recce cars, parts and staff is absolutely phenomenal.

    Without full factory support it is impossible to run a WRC team and pay driver's.
    #M-SPORTER

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    Quote Originally Posted by deephouse View Post
    I'm saying that he could at least pay them (I will make this numbers because don't know reality) Wilson could afford that, no excuse. 10.000-20.000 or more. Seb I believe have 2-3 millions and that is a huge amount per year. Still the drivers need to live. Travels isn't for free, accomodation too, food, clothes, family... If they are in the world level of racing they have not the time to work at the regular jobs.. So that's why I say it's silly. Still Wilson sell promising drivers and make more money that he invest into them.
    Professional drivers get a salary even at M-Sport. The money just comes from sponsor companies or maybe manager investments.

    Conversely, most M-Sport drivers, or their sponsors, must pay to drive, to cover the expenses of running a WRC car. In this case it would be silly if Malcolm would pay them for driving. It's like I would go to a restaurant, pay 50 euros more for my meal and then ask for 50 euros per hour salary for eating their food.

    However, I don't know if M-Sport has a bonus system for earning manufacturer points or winning etc.

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    Secondly M.Wilson paid Ogier out of his own pocket as the business couldnt afford him. This was a one-off for Ogier. No-else was worth the gamble.

    No way he will have taken money from his own pocket.
    His business’ reserves will have paid Ogier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T16 View Post
    Secondly M.Wilson paid Ogier out of his own pocket as the business couldnt afford him. This was a one-off for Ogier. No-else was worth the gamble.

    No way he will have taken money from his own pocket.
    His business’ reserves will have paid Ogier.
    Prove it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Prove it.
    Prove he actually paid from his own pocket.
    Why the he’ll would he do that, using cash he has paid tax on, when he can use the money in the business?
    How daft are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T16 View Post
    Prove he actually paid from his own pocket.
    Why the he’ll would he do that, using cash he has paid tax on, when he can use the money in the business?
    How daft are you?
    I'm not that expert but as far as I know it's completely normal, for an associate, or a owner of a company to invest an amount of his own money to close the balance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AL14 View Post
    I'm not that expert but as far as I know it's completely normal, for an associate, or a owner of a company to invest an amount of his own money to close the balance.
    He owns the company. The money belongs to the company.
    He will NOT have paid 50% tax on money paid to him then put it back in again.
    The company had enough in reserve. Check companies house.
    It sounds all nice and fluffy to say Wilson paid from his own pocket, but it just will not have happened that way.
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