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    Quote Originally Posted by pantealex View Post
    Toyota:
    -very fast (maybe fastest atm) 1st driver
    -probably fastest 2nd driver, JML
    What they need is reliable 3rd driver if something goes wrong with 1 or 2 driver
    Meeke doesn´t fit in that role, that´s why they should choose someone else if Lappi leaves.
    Fair point, but what about this ‘à la Hyundai’ alternative: Latvala and Meeke sharing a car? Like Sordo, their title dreams are long gone and they could have a more relaxed approach to events (Meeke ’16 half season went quite well). On the 3rd Yaris Makinen could get Hanninen back or invest in a young guy, like many suggested. Anyway, it’s quite a surprise to see this turbulence at Toyota; they seemed pretty balanced.
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    Not quite sure if I'd call it balanced. Tanak is dominating while the two others struggle.

    Latvala and Lappi have not led a rally for even a single stage after 10 rounds, with what often looks like the fastest car, that's actually quite amazing. The only rallies where one of them got podium on pure pace was Latvala in Finland (a rally where he dominated last year until technical issue), Monte is hard to count with 3 cars ahead of him hitting issues. Lappi has been complaining now on last 2 gravel rallies about gearbox not shifting down and stalling the engine and repeated it also happens on tests.

    Might be that the changes introduced after Tanak came don't really suit them that much, Latvala even voiced something along those lines recently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deephouse View Post
    What's with all these partners who sign with WRC one after another? Or is that happening all the time and media just novadays publish all that is related to it.
    Promoter is doing their job well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    Anyway, it’s quite a surprise to see this turbulence at Toyota
    What turbulance? So far everything I've seen is fiction created by media or fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Not quite sure if I'd call it balanced. Tanak is dominating while the two others struggle.

    Latvala and Lappi have not led a rally for even a single stage after 10 rounds, with what often looks like the fastest car, that's actually quite amazing. The only rallies where one of them got podium on pure pace was Latvala in Finland (a rally where he dominated last year until technical issue)
    This is a good point. But let's say, hypothetically, Lappi moves to Citroen and so does Ogier, he'll never be allowed to win a rally again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonkka View Post
    What turbulance? So far everything I've seen is fiction created by media or fans.
    Well media wants to sell/get clicks and fans like to speculate, so off course there is a lot of that.

    Let's just list the facts:

    - Neither Latvala nor Lappi have been announced as signed for Toyota next year and it's becoming relatively late in the usual signing season. If it was straightforward they would have announced them already, there is no reason to hold back on announcing it since they are in the same team.

    - Latvala said he knows there will be changes in the teams and that he has contract for next year, but wouldn't say for which team. Again if it was 100% sure it was Toyota it would be strange not to announce it. Either it's somewhere else or there are multiple offers.
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    I think we’ll be a lot wiser next week

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    Latvala saying "there will be changes"? In Toyota or overall? Ogier to Citroen for example is a change or 1 departure from Hyundai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Well media wants to sell/get clicks and fans like to speculate, so off course there is a lot of that.

    Let's just list the facts:

    - Neither Latvala nor Lappi have been announced as signed for Toyota next year and it's becoming relatively late in the usual signing season. If it was straightforward they would have announced them already, there is no reason to hold back on announcing it since they are in the same team.

    - Latvala said he knows there will be changes in the teams and that he has contract for next year, but wouldn't say for which team. Again if it was 100% sure it was Toyota it would be strange not to announce it. Either it's somewhere else or there are multiple offers.
    Neuville is only one announced as signed, does that mean everyone else (driver/team) are in turbulance?

    Toyota is factory team from Japan, those Japanise decide when they announce their drivers. Previus years they had press conference where they introduced all 3 drivers same time.

    Fact is that Latvala has deal for all rallies, so not sharing car with "Meeke"

    I`m personally 100% sure that JML has signed with TGR. Lappi situation is bit open...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    I think we’ll be a lot wiser next week
    Possible but it´s also possible that some news comes only after Catalonia...
    so it could be long wait.
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