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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Silence ? Some of us have work to do.

    Re Wilson's own money: We have heard him say so numerous times and all the rally journos repeat it.

    But of course you know better. So what is your proof ?

    You’ve got a job? Why don’t you pay for WRC+ then?

    As I asked, do you REALLY think Wilson paid from his own pocket, or do you think the company, M-Sport used its funds to cover Ogier’s salary? Never mind what the journos write, what do you believe?

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    Everyone mad Loeb came in and won in Spain lol.

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    I do like they idea of putting Guest drivers 1st on the road. But if we go back to the Qualifying days this will be a non issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by racerx1979 View Post
    Everyone mad Loeb came in and won in Spain lol.
    When Ogier has counted everyone?

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    Ogier is right on this one. Don't forget he was the first to jump in the roof to congratulate Loeb even if he lost a possible advantage of 7 points instead of 3 over Neuville.
    Anyway, coming as guest in some rallys can be a big advantage, too big if the guest is a competitive driver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AL14 View Post
    Ogier is right on this one. Don't forget he was the first to jump in the roof to congratulate Loeb even if he lost a possible advantage of 7 points instead of 3 over Neuville.
    Anyway, coming as guest in some rallys can be a big advantage, too big if the guest is a competitive driver.
    how many guest drivers have you seen being competitive... all of them are laughing stock dogs.

    Only Loeb was successful because is Loeb.

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    Where do they draw the line for how many or few events defines a guest driver? If Loeb does 3 or 4 rallies is he still a guest or a semi-regular? If Hyundai run a shared car with Paddon and Sordo doing half seasons again are they both 'guest drivers' too?

    Lets be honest, Ogier has always exaggerated the impact of running order when it disadvantages him and been mysteriously silent about it when it helps him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GravelBen View Post
    Where do they draw the line for how many or few events defines a guest driver? If Loeb does 3 or 4 rallies is he still a guest or a semi-regular? If Hyundai run a shared car with Paddon and Sordo doing half seasons again are they both 'guest drivers' too?

    Lets be honest, Ogier has always exaggerated the impact of running order when it disadvantages him and been mysteriously silent about it when it helps him.
    something is up.. this hasnt become newsworthy overnight.

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    Don't mind if qualifying stage come back. Atleast then rallies would have to have decent "shakedowns" as stages like we had Spain would be a total joke but i'm not sure if its totally needed since Loeb is the only non regular who is actually able to fight for the wins.

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    I'm undecided on the merit of a qualifying stage.

    On one hand it might help avoid the whinging from certain drivers about it being unfair when conditions are less favourable for their road position, on the other hand it adds another advantage (as well as the powerstage) to drivers who are better at pulling out one really fast stage even if they aren't as good at managing pace consistently over a whole rally. Just another step away from traditional rallying toward the short sprint format I guess.

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