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    The Citroen has gone through some major changes, specifically to make it easier on the limit. It started life with a weird torque split, for example. For me, it was rough around the edges to start with but has been improved through its development. I expect the combination of Ogier and Citroen to be challenging for another title in 2019.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Lately you could also say the same about 2016 before 2017.
    I did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAS007 View Post
    Hard to disagree with this; I can't understand why Ford won't come in with full backing, or why M-Sport have proved incapable of finding a title sponsor. Maybe they don't have a title sponsor because they don't have full manufacturer backing, or maybe they don't have full manufacturer backing because they don't have a title sponsor......
    The answer to this predicament is both simple and extraordinarly complicated. M-Sport need to convince a manufacturer other than Ford to use them for a WRC entry. Might be impossible, but that's the only way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomhlord View Post
    The answer to this predicament is both simple and extraordinarly complicated. M-Sport need to convince a manufacturer other than Ford to use them for a WRC entry. Might be impossible, but that's the only way.
    But who? Would have to be a major manuf, especially popular in EU, have affordable cars, especially hatchbacks and can't have sister brands already in competing. Mini ( we know how that went) and Renault i would say, only ones. MAYBE MB A-class, bot they are a premium brand an already on the circuits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAS007 View Post
    Hard to disagree with this; I can't understand why Ford won't come in with full backing, or why M-Sport have proved incapable of finding a title sponsor. Maybe they don't have a title sponsor because they don't have full manufacturer backing, or maybe they don't have full manufacturer backing because they don't have a title sponsor......
    Because Ford aren't particularly bothered about the WRC. Nascar/IMSA/WEC is their priority - it really is that simple. As for finding sponsorship, it's a competitive market out there; far bigger & more successful sports also have issues getting deals.

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Sure it's a gamble. But since they have the money and 2 other "reliable" drivers (I put it in " " cause of Latvala), it's not such a big one. As Tommi said it will definitely give PR for both wins and crashes.
    Imo the most "risky" part is that they prbly alienated Lappi, which could turn into a Ogier-Citroen kind of situation. When Lappi would not really want to go back to Toyota in 3-5 years even when it's the most logical option like Ogier did with Citroen before 2017 and 2018.
    I agree largely with this post. But I believe the biggest risk lies elsewhere.
    There's no question that Meeke is a hard charger and pure entertainment. However because of that it seems to have been forgotten that he was binned by Citroen because he had become a danger to both himself and everybody around him.
    I hope Tommi has thought about how to mitigate that risk when deciding to give him a go.

    Suggestions that it was all about the car and Ogier and Lappi will be tossing the C3 into the trees with similar regularity are ridiculous.
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    Hard to imagine Ford will ever come back. If they didn't when they had the world champion and one of the best drivers in the history of the sport, I can't see them returning now he's gone and they're left with scraps....

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    to be fair.. i think that's a good idea for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmop View Post
    But who? Would have to be a major manuf, especially popular in EU, have affordable cars, especially hatchbacks and can't have sister brands already in competing. Mini ( we know how that went) and Renault i would say, only ones. MAYBE MB A-class, bot they are a premium brand an already on the circuits.
    It would have to be a Chinese company wanting to improve global perception (or newly Chinese owned, like Proton), Suzuki, Renault/Nissan/Dacia or Mazda.

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