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    Quote Originally Posted by SubaruNorway View Post
    It seems very accurate, not sure if it works on GPS position as that's pre programed in the unit, but they have the correct time to the tenth in the car just as they pass the finish line now i can hear from the co driver, before the co driver would give the time he had manually taken on the watch. So if that works in a tight forest having the same pre programmed line for the virtual chicane should also work fine.
    That's really not enough to control these virtual chicanes.
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    Jesus are we still talking about chicane here?? let's hope we have news soon from Paddon, Evans and Breen to end the agony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    That's really not enough to control these virtual chicanes.
    How do you know, have you tried?
    Anyway it shouldn't be an issue just doing it manually if there's an glitch
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    Quote Originally Posted by SubaruNorway View Post
    How do you know, have you tried?
    Anyway it shouldn't be an issue just doing it manually if there's an glitch
    It's pretty obvious that having a good time onboard is absolutely not enough to have reliable virtual chicanes and it's a fact that the location has not been working 100% accurate so far (without that it can never be a reliable system). And no, it can not be controlled manually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    It's pretty obvious that having a good time onboard is absolutely not enough to have reliable virtual chicanes and it's a fact that the location has not been working 100% accurate so far (without that it can never be a reliable system). And no, it can not be controlled manually.
    With the Rally Safe system or the Czech one?
    Gary from NZ is saying they are now used there without concerns.
    Should be more reliable than a normal chicane where one car goes 40kph and the next 150kph like on SS7 in Australia.

    Why not?
    If the system does not activate for the zone coming up you just brake at the boards to 50kph which the co-driver keeps an eye on and you can check it in the log later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SubaruNorway View Post
    With the Rally Safe system or the Czech one?
    Gary from NZ is saying they are now used there without concerns.
    Should be more reliable than a normal chicane where one car goes 40kph and the next 150kph like on SS7 in Australia.

    Why not?
    If the system does not activate for the zone coming up you just brake at the boards to 50kph which the co-driver keeps an eye on and you can check it in the log later.
    With current WRC tracking system.
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    Being one of the countries that has been using Rallysafe since its inception Motorsport in NZ has been working very closely with the company. We have situations where after the rally has been plotted the local authority may have had to undertake roadworks on a short section of a planned special stage and they do not want the cars to travel over it at speed so with rallysafe we plot in a "Restricted Speed Zone". We plot in the co-ordinates to a point where stage timing stops followed by a point where the speed restriction starts followed by a point where the speed restriction ends and special stage timing recommences. We also track the speed of the competing car through the restricted zone and penalties are applied for excess speed and/or excessively slow speed and/or stopping in the restricted zone. It really is quite easy to do and it very effective.

    As an example at one NZRC event this season the local authority notified the event organisers of a restriction after recce had been completed yet the zone was able to be plotted accurately and loaded into the in-car units and Bulletins issued within 2 hours. Had this facility not been available there would have been no other option than to cancel the stage and plot a major re-route to avoid using the road. Something that would have taken many hours to undertake plus would have seen the competitors sitting in excess 2 hours doing nothing until they continued with their event.

    Obviously landmarks and rally signage are the markers for the start and finish of these zones and Rallysafe displays a countdown to the start/finish of the zones and speed display whilst in them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    Am I the only one on this forum who thinks Ogier/Citroen is the force to reckon next season?

    the car is awesome on tarmac (maybe even the best) and they have made big steps with it also on gravel. Of course there is still some work to do, especially when the conditions are slippery. Also, Loeb showed us on all 3 occasions that you can be fast with this car.

    They may struggle a little in the beginning of the season but Ogier coming with his knowledge from VW and M-sport and Lappi with his knowledge from Toyota, i think they can sort the issues rather sooner than later.
    You are not the only one, in any of the current cars Seb Ogier would be a force ……..

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    i do think Ogier will be a forced to be reckoned with in Citroen and in any car, period. This has been proven time and time again through out his career. The guy is a great talent. However, having said that, i also believe that Tanak and Neuville now have the ability and personal confidence to fight with him on every rally. That personal belief in themselves is very important--- mental strength. They now know/think they can and do win, which is a bit different from a few years ago. As well, the other "support" drivers certainly have the ability to win/fight on some events (Latvala, Meeke, Lappi, Mikkelsen more so) and take points away. I'm hoping next season will be just as thrilling as this one was.

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    On the subject of chicanes, and also tractors... remember this ?!

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