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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli View Post
    https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/1...e-hybrid-power

    On the subject of a move away from petrol, Todt added: "Our team is talking with the teams to see if we can introduce [2022 regulations] directly with biofuel.

    "This would be a game-changer. This is the direction in which we are searching."

    The current single-make WRC fuel supplier's contract runs out at the end of 2021.
    In the midst of a lot of BS I am glad to see Todt speak some sense.

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    Promoting biofuel is downright criminal.
    Last edited by Mirek; 25th September 2019 at 17:21.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli View Post
    FIA rally director Yves Matton confirmed new manufacturers were looking at 2022 regulations, with one brand following them closely.

    "Because they are following, it doesn't mean they [will] come," said Matton.

    Anyone got any ideas who this is likely to be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Primoting biofuel is downright criminal.
    Worse than sticking with fossil fuel - petrol - when the WRC goes hybrid, which is the current likelihood ?

    I'm no expert but some biofuels do sound ok, like that made from non-edible sources such as agricultural waste...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Primoting biofuel is downright criminal.
    So is mining lithium according to those who live close to the mines, many of those who are suffering from cancer. You just cant see to win those days.

    Lets just agree there is so much space to develop every technology, bio-fuels could be a interesting solution to the sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francis44 View Post
    Lets just agree there is so much space to develop every technology, bio-fuels could be a interesting solution to the sport.
    Even in not so much agricultural land like Czechia the massive production of oilseed rape (by our prime minister's business mainly) caused massive soil errosion, loss of underground water, massive loss of insect species and subsequent loss of some other species which depend on the insect. This must be condemned and not further promoted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Even in not so much agricultural land like Czechia the massive production of oilseed rape (by our prime minister's business mainly) caused massive soil errosion, loss of underground water, massive loss of insect species and subsequent loss of some other species which depend on the insect. This must be condemned and not further promoted.
    Mirek is right, this is the worst thing that could happen. I have PhD in Ecology and I have worked around one year in agriculture field (I was the head of the department that was dealing with envrionmental impact of agriculture) and I can tell you that biofuels is the worst "crime" against nature that has ever done by humans. in paper, it might look nice and in the city, it might be slightly less pollution but all those effects related to biofuel production are massive. Mirek just mentioned a few of them. Starting from the loss of soil fertility, loss of insects, loss of birds, effect on grounwater, and ending with shortened lifecycles of engines and need to replace your car more frequently is just the top of iceberg.. Hopefully common sense wins and biofules will be banned from fulestations and allowed/used as local fuel (for heating plants etc. )only.
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    Im not an expert such as yourself, but I believe 100% in what you have explained. We see it with many types of agriculture.

    But surely there must be other alternarive options in the horizon then. Synthetic?!
    Last edited by Francis44; 25th September 2019 at 22:14.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Worse than sticking with fossil fuel - petrol - when the WRC goes hybrid, which is the current likelihood ?

    I'm no expert but some biofuels do sound ok, like that made from non-edible sources such as agricultural waste...
    Fully agree with Mirek, biofuels are a disaster. Grain has doubled in price for developing countries. This is primarily due to increased use of biofuels.
    In a US Senate hearing where environmental organizations made suggestions on doubling the organic content of biofuels, they were asked, do you plan to continue eating, if so what. Because you should be aware that 45% of the current maize production is already used for biofuels. So I repeat, do you plan to continue eating, or do you still want to double the content of biofuels.

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    Rich pseudo-liberals won't care about that, while regular people struggle and the poor starve they can keep spending daddy's money on vegan soy lattes and kale smoothies from their overpriced inner-city cafe while tweeting about equality on the latest iphone.

    Not that I'm cynical or anything...

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