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    Commenting on the low-point of the WRC history.

    In my view, 1997 hasn't been the lowest, there were three manufacturers involved with full time schedule (Ford, Mitsubishi and Subaru) with Toyota entering selected rallies as fourth. In 1996 and 1995 we didn't have Toyota in so it was just three manufacturers.

    But... Following Subaru withdrawal after 2008 season we had only two (2!!) manufacturers involved, albeit with junior and satellite teams. So for seasons 2009 - 2010 it was just Citroen and Ford. Factoring in Mini's minuscule (pun intended) involvement in 2011-2012 could extend this period further. And with level of Citroen's domination, it effectively was single-make series. That is what I call the low point in WRC history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonkka View Post
    Commenting on the low-point of the WRC history.

    In my view, 1997 hasn't been the lowest, there were three manufacturers involved with full time schedule (Ford, Mitsubishi and Subaru) with Toyota entering selected rallies as fourth. In 1996 and 1995 we didn't have Toyota in so it was just three manufacturers.
    True, but 1995-1996 the teams often entered three cars. And although Toyota was disqualified in 1995, the spectators still got to watch their three cars as well. However, in 1997 with only one exception (Subaru in RAC) the teams always entered just two cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonkka View Post
    Commenting on the low-point of the WRC history.

    In my view, 1997 hasn't been the lowest, there were three manufacturers involved with full time schedule (Ford, Mitsubishi and Subaru) with Toyota entering selected rallies as fourth. In 1996 and 1995 we didn't have Toyota in so it was just three manufacturers.

    But... Following Subaru withdrawal after 2008 season we had only two (2!!) manufacturers involved, albeit with junior and satellite teams. So for seasons 2009 - 2010 it was just Citroen and Ford. Factoring in Mini's minuscule (pun intended) involvement in 2011-2012 could extend this period further. And with level of Citroen's domination, it effectively was single-make series. That is what I call the low point in WRC history.
    I could agree with you, but still we have to remember in 2009 the championship title was decided by a single point. 2010 was more Citroen and Loeb & Ogier & Sordo single-make series, yet even then there were 4 different winners. Still, 2010 was more of a low point than 2009 in my opinion. Spectator wise, 2010 introduced a lot of S2000 cars, so it compensated. Oh well.
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    If the number of entries is the chosen way to quantify the series' quality or health, then 2009 is the absolute low point. That season there were only 695 entries across all the 12 events of the season, down from 1063 entries of the previous season (admittedly, with 15 events).

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    How about a this kind of index: the number of main class factory entries divided by the amount of rallies in a season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pantealex View Post
    Please, read those, there are some changes for 2019
    So did you print it all out?

    I´m too lazy to find out changes. Could you give us a hint?
    "Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
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    https://rallysportmag.com/exclusive-...r-yves-matton/

    Seems like an interesting interview behind the paywall

    EXCLUSIVE: FIA Rally Director, @Yves_Matton, spoke exclusively to @RallyHolmes about the future of the @OfficialWRC, and of major changes coming to the sport, including a new ‘Rally 3’ category, more events outside Europe, and a new ‘Pyramid’ system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    https://rallysportmag.com/exclusive-...r-yves-matton/

    Seems like an interesting interview behind the paywall
    "Rally 3", "Pyramid system"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    So did you print it all out?

    I´m too lazy to find out changes. Could you give us a hint?
    Main changes are:

    - Art 8: New FIA WRC 2 Pro Championship (WRC 2 for manufacturers)

    - Art 13.1.2: The total distance of the special stages shall be between 300 km and 350 km (between 300 and 500 km in 2018 and before)

    - Art 17.1: P1 drivers may request a specific number provided that the application is endorsed by the FIA and the Promoter. Number 1 may only be chosen by the World Champion driver of the previous season. Requested numbers may not be greater than 99.

    - Art 17.2: Competition numbers between 21 and 40 for WRC 2 Pro competitors and between 41 and 70 for WRC 2 competitors shall be allocated rally by rally, according to the provisional classification of the Championships concerned. Greater numbers may be allocated if required.

    - Art 20.1.5: On a road section that is a public road and at the start of a stage, a competition car may only be driven on four freely rotating wheels and tyres. Any car not complying with this article will be considered as retired as per WRC Art. 46. An additional penalty may be imposed by the stewards.

    - Art 45.2: P1 drivers re-starting on Saturday and/or Sunday under WRC Art. 46, shall on all subsequent days start as a merged group before the other P1 drivers in the reverse order of their position in the classification.

    - Art 49.2.2: The schedule for each car in the service park is as follows: 40 minutes between two groups of stages (30 minutes in the past)

    - Art 66.1.1: On a permanent testing site proposed by the Manufacturer before its first rally of the year and notified to the FIA. The area of the permanent testing site shall be within a maximum radius of 5 km (free in the past)

    That's all, folks!

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    So if Breen and Paddon go out, Meeke and Loeb will be back in and no new young drivers are driving WRC cars, this year will have a pretty higher average age than latest years.

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