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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Also if you look up Alén in Wikipedia, it's right up there, sourced from The Complete Book of the World Rally Championship by Henry Hope Frost and John Davenport, not your average forum posters.
    Fantastic book. HHF was a friend of a friend, and was tragically killed not too far from where I live.
    At last year's Silverstone classic (of which said friend gets us competitors passes) there was a wall to draw motoring pictures to commemorate Henry.
    I chose to draw Mr maximum attack launching over a crest in martini integrale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm75 View Post
    Fantastic book. HHF was a friend of a friend, and was tragically killed not too far from where I live.
    At last year's Silverstone classic (of which said friend gets us competitors passes) there was a wall to draw motoring pictures to commemorate Henry.
    I chose to draw Mr maximum attack launching over a crest in martini integrale.
    Quality!... I just read the inquest the other day... so tragic. I only really paid attention to him after he passed and he seemed like a totally genuine chap.

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    @Allez Andruet & @AnttiL, useful info, thanks. I guess I don't know much of Alen, most of Group B era for me is related to AUDI, Peugeot 205 T16, S4, Rohrl and of course Toivonen, R.I.P.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    i just took a little nap and woke up with great news.

    Estonian government will fund Rally Estonia with 1 million euros and this means this years Rally Estonia will be WRC candidate/test event.
    Hope that isn't just chucking money away? There doesn't seem to be space in the wrc calendar with Kenya and Japan on the way. At least one European round is getting cut nevermind more added, and we need more tarmac.

    Can understand why you're excited though and I would be too if/when Scotland ever replaces Wales . The stages in Estonia look incredible and the fan base is there, I'd just be massively surprised if your country gets in. But good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by er88 View Post
    The stages in Estonia look incredible and the fan base is there, I'd just be massively surprised if your country gets in. But good luck
    Rally Poland is also aiming back to the WRC and the roads are very similar to Estonia. Not sure that we will need more very fast gravel events to the calendar...

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    are you kidding? this is exactly what we need with only Sweden and Finland being very fast events atm. we should at least have one more, i dont care if it is Estonia or Poland as long it is fast.

    And personally i would like to have one more tarmac round too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    are you kidding? this is exactly what we need with only Sweden and Finland being very fast events atm. we should at least have one more, i dont care if it is Estonia or Poland as long it is fast.

    And personally i would like to have one more tarmac round too.
    I agree, there should be one more fast event, something to bridge the gap between the likes of Portugal, Mexico and Sardegna and the faster ones of Sweden and Finland. Right now Australia is the only one that is somewhere between, but even that is closer to Portugal's speeds for the most part.

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    The current spec WRC's are made for fast rallies, so yes please, bring in Rally Estonia.
    ku ois neljä pyörää ku vetäis ni ois vähän eri sekunnit kyllä pätkillä, sen mä takaan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Andruet View Post
    The current spec WRC's are made for fast rallies
    No, they are very customisable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Andruet View Post
    Trust me, it's not a forum thing. Alen was known for his always-flat-out style, which during the heyday of ridiculously long rallies in the 70's and 80's wasn't that common approach. That made Markku so popular among the rally fans worldwide, but also cost him dearly; 1000 Lakes 1986 or RAC 1987 probably being the best examples of rallies where he should have just taken it easy instead of pushing like there's no tomorrow.

    It's true that the moniker wasn't used as widely during his active years as it has been afterwards. In 2001, when Markku drove Rally Finland for one last time, the text on the back of his Focus WRC read "The original maximum attack".

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    And another reason why he's still so popular (although this only concerns the Finnish speaking rally fans) must be the wonderful interviews he gave. It's hard to put in words, but there's something very unique and charismatic in his way of being dead serious, but still with a shade of humor.

    I only saw him few times in action in the early 90's, yet he's my biggest hero in rallying.

    edit. Has nothing to do with anything, but actually I've seen Markku's father quite many times. He used to attend the same ice hockey games I did with my father. Ofcourse I didn't recognize him at the time, but my dad did.
    In Italy Alen is very much loved.
    There are some sentences that he said with his particular italian language that are still remembered by most of people. I didnt follow rally back then (well, I wasn't alive for a big part of his career haha) but I hear about him from time to time.
    Some I can translate in english trying to translate also the "mistakes".

    If tyro keep I winning race! If tyro don't keep, I like bomb into mountain!

    "Fault of I, car made PUFF"

    "I remember first series 037 problems gear, then change and ok. dashboard fantastik, all clear: much lights saying me when problem. green lights maximum attack, red lights going slow and kikki calling assistance."

    Talking about his son debut on tarmac: "for him asphalt is first time, he slow and learn" then he look at the sky "if rain, better we go home".

    And still about his son running in Sardinia after he retired:"Sardinia no trees... Anton took only!!"

    I tried to give the same tone in english language, for sure it's not the same but he was a greatest driver and also a very nice person. He knew what rally was about.
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