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Thread: [WRC] News & Rumours 2019
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13th May 2019, 16:57 #1961
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13th May 2019, 16:58 #1962
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Well, all those Monza shows, GFOS, with their own drivers, 3 sold cars, out of which 2 have also taken part in show events and nationals . M-Sport still has the largest number of"out of the series starts" in this generation. And they will keep it, probably.
*There aren`t so many R5s like some people tend to think, basing their opinions on their regions, but the world is bigger.
*New WRC can be succesfully beaten by a R5, (Gross vs O. Solberg, Fiesta 17 vs Polo R5).
*Those countries that allow them now, mostly allow them outside of the championship so again, no harm there..
*Great for fans who can`t allow experiencing a WRC round themselves.Last edited by Tarmop; 13th May 2019 at 18:12.
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13th May 2019, 20:47 #1963
One thing is car other is car + official driver.
M-Sport official drivers don't run.
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13th May 2019, 20:49 #1964
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Last edited by AnttiL; 14th May 2019 at 06:44.
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14th May 2019, 05:17 #1965
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14th May 2019, 05:40 #1966
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14th May 2019, 05:51 #1967
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They were only now allowed to enter the cars to national rallies and France and Italy. Also the Ypres WRC parallel event was created for this year.
Although, Neuville already started Autoglym rally in Finland 2017.
Like I've said earlier, I see this as a positive thing, a chance for people to see WRC cars and drivers when the series doesn't run an event in their country (which is partially true in the case of Italy and France when their WRC rallies are hosted on islands). Just as long as they're kept away from the championship points, there's no harm done.
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14th May 2019, 13:32 #1968
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Are you guys suggesting an R5 car is not slower than WRC17 car?
Cause it almost sounds like that. Sure a better driver in R5 can beat worse one in WRC. Heck in right conditions even "worse" driver can beat WRC in R5 (lately Sweden powerstage first run with Hutunen, Kopecky numerous times on SSS on tarmac).
That doesn't change the fact that given similar drivers and normal circumstances WRC driver easily wins. If both cars are allowed then the one with more money wins.
Running them outside normal national classification is good and fixes this issue.
Doesn't fix the other issue of using this as "exploit" to circumvent testing rules.
This in turn leads to inceased cost by manufacturers. Listening to the teams, testing is by far the most effective use of money when it comes to improving performance. Though it has its limitations as C3 showed.
We already have half the teams in WRC running only 2 cars regularly. Surely we don't want further cost increase? Say Hyundai and Toyota that have money use them on additional testing (each with their own exploit) . Citroen to stay competetive for drivers title abandons 3rd car. But we should be happy cause we see a WRC car with manu driver on some national rally with very limited media coverage and no competition? (at least in Estonia there will be competition)
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As you are well aware of, all the stages and SD of Rally Monte Carlo are in France, so this was a particularly terrible example.
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14th May 2019, 15:01 #1969
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Yup, with those not-so talented drivers, there is almost a chance for everyone. They will never dominate the scenery anyway and take part of it without earning points, mostly. Many nationals can say also that those few R5 are too expensive and fast for guys with old N`s. Next there is a significant difference between old R5s vs new R5s or evolutions, we already have that with the evo vs non-evo versions, not to mention the Polo r5. And in the end...what are local championships with people competing with R5s made from? Usually just wealthy people enjoying themselves, ofc they want to win etcetc, but theirs or nobody else`s life quality suffers from it...and the ones with real talent shine out even brighter.
The cars are there so let them be used like cars should be used like: driven.Last edited by Tarmop; 14th May 2019 at 15:33.
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14th May 2019, 18:08 #1970
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Next step: Finnish Rally Championship Riihimäki Ralli on 25th of May with Hyundai i20 WRC. “The feeling is very good and we are trying to get more mileage and build confidence in this rally.” #rally
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It was on qualifying stage, he rolled the car and it was said that he won't be able to start the rally. But team managed to repair the car and he did start and dominated drivers like Rossel, Gryazin...
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