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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm75 View Post
    60's. Jim Clark . . Plenty of drifting and definitely not a prima Donna.
    That was 50 years ago...50 years subsequently full of ever more hysterical hype..
    One simple pass and the announcers flip out so much screaming a "Brilliant" pass and make Brazilian football fans look like geriatrics patients sedated with massive amounts of drugs as if nobody has ever passed anybody ever before..Its ridiculous..
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    Quote Originally Posted by lnvs View Post
    Also Ogier is older than Latvala. But guess he ain't "serving".
    You don't seem to comprehend. Serving has nothing to do with age.

    Latvala drove his first WRC event in 2002. Meeke in 2003. Ogier in 2008 (in fact he drove his very first national rally only in 2006).
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Jouhki says Ford might return as a factory team with the hybrid regulations. He thinks Tänak will stay at Toyota, but if he leaves, Kalle will go there. He also says M-Sport is always a good option for a new driver to rehearse.

    https://yle.fi/urheilu/3-10876239

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Jouhki says Ford might return as a factory team with the hybrid regulations. He thinks Tänak will stay at Toyota, but if he leaves, Kalle will go there. He also says M-Sport is always a good option for a new driver to rehearse.

    https://yle.fi/urheilu/3-10876239
    I read it as saying pretty directly that Kalle will either go to Toyota or MSport and I agree it's the best options. C3 seems a bit tricky on gravel atm. and only one driver has ever been able to consistently deliver with I20. Just as before I am not so convinced he should drive full season yet though.

    For me it also looks very likely that Evans will go somewhere else if he continues to prove a reliable points scorer. Surely that has to be something for the teams fighting for manu title (Toyota, Hyundai and probably Citroen next year). MSport with Tanak would want cheap/paying drivers and Evans probably would not be interested in that any more. But it might be that if MSport doesn't get Tanak they change their goal from driver title/rally wins to manu title and sign one of Latvala/Meeke/Mikkelsen and keep Evans.

    Latvala/Meeke will want to stay at Toyota, but unless they do like 2 podiums each in next 3 rallies I think one of them will leave, then the question will be who (if?) hires them. Latvala going "cheap" to MSport seems most likely.

    Mikkelsen would want to leave Hyundai if he can (unless he drives in Germany and has normal speed there). Tommi never seemed interested though and I can't see that happening unless he kicks both Latvala and Meeke, which is not very likely. Out of the other two Citroen (with 3 cars) looks most likely to me.

    Anyway just like Jouhki says the fastest free driver will kick it all off and everything else will depend on what he does. That's undoubtedly Tanak atm. since Ogier and Neuville have contracts.

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    I typed my initial reply on the phone quickly.

    Here's some quotes from Jouhki translated

    "Our target is that Kalle drives next year in WRC class. I believe in that firmly"
    "My guess is that Tänak will remain at Toyota, although the fight will be fierce with M-Sport and Hyundai"
    "Let's say that if Tänak leaves Toyota we'll get there quite surely"
    "Not all teams are such where you could imagine being as comfortable as possible" (the journalist mentions Citroen axing Meeke and Adamo's politics at Hyundai, plus Toyota's realiability problems)
    "I consider all manufacturer teams to be equal in competitiveness. M-Sport is not a full works team but it's a good rehearsal team"
    "Let's say that the probability to driving with Toyota is over 50%. The rest are below. Toyota is quite interesting but so are the others"

    Jouhki also states that he hasn't had this situation where teams are battling for his driver since the days of Kankkunen and Mäkinen. He also claims being Finnish has no meaning in going to Toyota. Kalle's contract should be published by October.

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    I forgot... does Jouhki manage Latvala as well??

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    Quote Originally Posted by racerx1979 View Post
    I forgot... does Jouhki manage Latvala as well??
    Yes.

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    Afaik, last time one of his drivers won the championship was Mäkinen in 1999, 20 years ago!

    Yes he has brought (or "bought") quite a few drivers to WRC, but they tend to be "second best".

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Afaik, last time one of his drivers won the championship was Mäkinen in 1999, 20 years ago!

    Yes he has brought (or "bought") quite a few drivers to WRC, but they tend to be "second best".
    So far the list of "Jouhki drivers in WRC" is as follows: Kankkunen, Mäkinen, Rovanperä Sr., Gardemeister, Hirvonen, Latvala and Suninen. Out of those G-Man is the only one failing to win a WRC event (I count Suninen as being on his way to one), so overall Jouhki delivers quite top quality, I would say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Andruet View Post
    So far the list of "Jouhki drivers in WRC" is as follows: Kankkunen, Mäkinen, Rovanperä Sr., Gardemeister, Hirvonen, Latvala and Suninen. Out of those G-Man is the only one failing to win a WRC event (I count Suninen as being on his way to one), so overall Jouhki delivers quite top quality, I would say.
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