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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira View Post
    Actually the Evo 6 Gr.A and the Subaru S5 WRC had a shorter wheelbase than the Yaris WRC, shortest current WRC car. Having larger cars in rallying makes no sense, they're not agile enough.

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    If all will agree they could bring tractors as long as it will be good promotion. So no matter what type of cars we will see in future. My predicition lies on SUV-s.

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    Hardly, SUVs are passing trend probably, especially in countries with limits to city centers etc. Or atleast SUVs as they are now...hothatches/estates with higher clearence is another story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    T16 is a newbie. Really ? With that name referencing the Group B Peugeot 205 ?
    Maybe it was a 405 T16? In case the Impreza Turbo was too small.
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    An SUV like the MINI Countryman?
    GG: "I'm stinky! I needa good shower and nice bowl of pasta!"

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    No I mean regular, look how much models brands introduce every year. There is like whole series of SUV-s. What we have back in the old days when only american Ford and Suzuki have lots of different models. Now almost every brand have 3 or more. Do you have to say that for hothatches, when there is one or maybe two. And even the second one is practicaly estate.

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    There are still quite many hothatches in different sizes from many manuf. Same goes with the SUV, easy to make one...platforms are shared with their hothatch siblings for example. That doesn`t mean that they are so hugely popular and can be boosted with rallying. In Western EU, especially in citys/towns with oldtowns, smaller cars are popular...SUVs mostly just substitute or could be called large MPVs and estates, for those who want to put their kids, dogs and lifestyle equipment in it and have a practical need for it... you can`t sell Yaris as a family car to a family with 3 kids and a dog, on the otherhand small SUVs are not such a huge trend...the clearence is not really utilitarian at all, nothing you can`t get from lets say, ix20, Leon X-Perience etc. And lets not forget, that most new cars are bought by companies, country institutes and taxi companies and they mostly go for money per km.

    First googled answer for the most selling cars in EU 2018 and hothatches own it pretty much, with only Tiguan and Qasqhai in 5. and 6. place, with around 50% less sold than Golf`s:
    https://focus2move.com/europe-best-selling-cars/
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    Quote Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1 View Post
    An SUV like the MINI Countryman?
    One total failure was not enough?

    Actually two total failures (SX4)...

    Quote Originally Posted by deephouse View Post
    No I mean regular, look how much models brands introduce every year. There is like whole series of SUV-s. What we have back in the old days when only american Ford and Suzuki have lots of different models. Now almost every brand have 3 or more. Do you have to say that for hothatches, when there is one or maybe two. And even the second one is practicaly estate.
    Why should anyone use SUV, i.e. a thing which has terribly large frontal area, thus horrendous aerodynamics, high center of gravity and a few hundred kilos overweight? How do You think anyone could force manufacturers to use completely non-suitable base cars and not something much better suitable for the task?

    And come on, nearly all major manufacturers offer some sort of hot hatch.
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    Some are actually trying SUV-type rally cars:

    Fiat 500X (FIA R4)

    Toyota CH-R (AP-4)

    but for me rally cars should look like "sport models" not SUV/MPV/VAN
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