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    Quote Originally Posted by dodge33cymru View Post
    I've just gone wandering. Was stood on a perfectly safe bank, nowhere near a corner with a ditch and 5m between me and the road. Because of the bank, moving 10m further back means I couldn't see the road. Start again...
    Found it... This one
    https://youtu.be/qlLolGuqo9o

    Embankments need to be higher than one meter to make them safe. Things happens on straights also, especially in a rally where grip levels are inconsistent and the asphalt bumpy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francis44 View Post
    Instead of blaiming the spectators how about we look at the good examples on the calendar? Portugal has it all figured out when it comes to spectator safety, ofcourse for those watching it makes for a considerably less enjoyable race, but the example is there and it is very simple to copy it. Ofcourse the real truth is when it comes to MC organizers they cant be bothered.
    I don't like how Portugal sorted it out. I think that if organizers tell you to move you should move. End of discussion. If you are in bad place they cancel the stage and it's all your fault. Sometimes organizers can be too strict? Yes but I don't think this is the Mouton case. I've been in Monte twice and she has always been flexible and used common sense. Something that spectators in bad places should do as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    next stage will start 10.33 local time
    So it's about 20 minutes delayed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itix View Post
    Found it... This one
    https://youtu.be/qlLolGuqo9o

    Embankments need to be higher than one meter to make them safe. Things happens on straights also, especially in a rally where grip levels are inconsistent and the asphalt bumpy.
    It is absolutely stupid to be seated while watching rally. Especially sitting on the bank, it's just suicidal. You should always expect the unexpected and be prepared to escape. But then again, I wouldn't go on a one metre bank on the outside of a fast corner even standing up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KKS View Post
    I really want to see pictures of a lot of fans standing in unsafe positions, what caused a stage cancellation. And I bet it's not too bad to cancel it.
    Well why did they then cancel? I would imagine it's the last thing they want to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dodge33cymru View Post
    I've just gone wandering. Was stood on a perfectly safe bank, nowhere near a corner with a ditch and 5m between me and the road. Because of the bank, moving 10m further back means I couldn't see the road. Start again...
    While you're there, make sure your stage doesn't get cancelled as well, look after others who might be in a bad place. I'm sure you want that as much or even more than us at home watching All Live.

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    It will likely happen again, and again....
    Too many fans trying to spectate in the same stage. Why not try running more stages and/ or over a greater geographical area...

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    Some of the comments here are just plain stupid. was she supposed to stop there to make them move and delay the stage?
    Fact is some spectators are just ignorant and they do not listen, she did the right thing. If some one was killed or injured you all would get on about how the sport is not safe and Michelle did not do her job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    It is absolutely stupid to be seated while watching rally. Especially sitting on the bank, it's just suicidal. You should always expect the unexpected and be prepared to escape. But then again, I wouldn't go on a one metre bank on the outside of a fast corner even standing up.
    Regardless of sitting or standing, they could have tripped while trying to run away too. Being on that low embankment to begin with was stupid. The only smart ones were the ones further up the hillside.

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    Last edited by KKS; 25th January 2019 at 08:37.

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